Last night after my kids were asleep, I turned my attention to social media to read reactions to the Grand Jury decision in Ferguson, MO. I read thousands of posts, but there were two things in particular that really struck me.
The first was something I saw across several of the Facebook threads I participated in. The commenters were basically trying to combat all the anti-police rhetoric they were seeing, because many of them had family members who worked in law enforcement. I related to this because, as the daughter of a retired police officer, I also hate seeing anti-police sentiment. I know how scary it is when your loved one walks out the door every day to do a dangerous job very few people want to do. I remember what his face looked like and what his voice sounded like when he’d come home after the really bad days. I’ve heard my dad called all sorts of names. As a child, I didn’t understand why people hated him just because of his job. But I was a white kid in the suburbs, and I had no idea.
With that said, though, it’s the second thing that affected me the most, and brought me to tears. On twitter, my friends of color expressed their dismay over the grand jury’s decision. They wrote about how the system is failing them and their families. They wrote about how they feel like they don’t matter because of the color of their skin. They wrote about how scared they are for their children, their sons.
My friend Karen implored her white friends to write something, anything. To not let this moment go by in silence. I’ve often felt like, as a white person, what can I write that people will care about? In the past I’ve stuck to sharing links to well-written articles, to having in-person discussions, and donating money to organizations dedicated to change. And, I’ve feared that by expressing my devastation over how things are going in Ferguson I’d somehow be disrespecting my father, which is the last thing I’d ever want to do.
But…I can’t hide behind my privilege. My children will never be looked at suspiciously, because they are white. Annabel will never be followed around a store to make sure she doesn’t shoplift. James will always be given the benefit of the doubt. That’s not fair. This has to change, and the people with the privilege have to help change it.
Things were supposed to be different by now, but nothing changes in silence.
Lulu says:
Annabel will never be followed around a store to make sure she doesn’t shoplift. James will always be given the benefit of the doubt. – I do not live in LA, but I live in a world where people of ALL color commit crimes and EVERYONE OF EVERY COLOR who is ACTING DEFIANT to AUTHORITY provokes SUSPICIOUS. Are you raising your children to believe that they have a free pass on their behavior? Apparently it is different where you live……
Jennifer says:
Annabel is unlikely to be followed and James is unlikely to be shot by police, likely because they won’t be acting tough, loitering in the street, blocking traffic and
White or black or blue: It’s behavior. Not the skin color. In Cleveland, a 12-year-old black boy was shot and killed in the park after pointing a gun at people on a playground, acting like he was going to shoot them. Someone called 9-1-1. Turns out it was a BB gun – still with the ability to harm but much less so than a real gun. He refused to put up his hands and drop the weapon. Do a Google search and take a look at what this bb gun looked like. How is a police officer SUPPOSED to respond to this situation?
I doubt your kids or mine will ever be found in a park with a gun in their pants, aiming it people passing by. And that has a lot less to due to any type of race-related privilege and more to do with parenting.
Emily says:
I’m confused, if a 12 year old boy with a BB gun warranted a death sentence, what about the crazy guy from Colorado who shot up a movie theater and actually murdered people? Just one example, but I think it’s obvious it has to do with race.
Lindsay says:
Really? I mean, REALLY?
I have been in stores with a black friend where I am allowed to go about my business, and my friend is followed or watched closely by staff. Not because she is being defiant or acting suspicious. Because she is black. I have watched police officers tail and threaten my students simply because they are walking down the street. Not because they are being defiant or acting suspicious. Because they are black. I have SEEN it. Many, many, many times.
To call out Heather’s parenting is ludicrous. This is not about parenting. This is about something so deeply woven into the fabric of our society that I have no idea how it will be removed. And attitudes like yours do not inspire much confidence.
Heather says:
SMH. My kids are taught the difference between right and wrong but there’s no guarantee that they’ll make the right choices. My point is that, because they are white, they will be afforded the benefit of the doubt. They won’t provoke suspicion simply by walking into a store. If you don’t get that, then you are privileged.
TonyaM says:
“If you don’t get that, then you are privileged.”
YES.
M. says:
the problem is, it’s possible your children could be looked at with suspicion simply by walking into a store. that they could be followed because it’s assumed they would shoplift.
if they are ever (and i hope this will never be the case for them) poor, and ‘look’ poor, then yes, they will be looked at as lesser than. i’ve been there, in a time where i had no money and no nice looking clothes. walking into a store- the same ones- is so much different now, and it makes me sad. i was no more likely to steal then, which i never did, than i am now. but the people who work there don’t see that. it disgusts me to know how a simple change automatically makes them see me as someone of better moral standing. the poor are not instantly thieves. to take something that isn’t yours is a decision, not something anyone is bound to do because xyz, even poverty.
the saddest part is, i’m just as poor as i was, but with some better clothes now.
for the record, i’m white.
M. says:
(and for what it’s worth, i have known what it is to literally be starving. i would walk into a store with *A* dollar in my pocket, walk to the store.. having not eaten in days.. and get something that could be divided, say a package of ‘value’ cookies, where we’d have maybe 6-8 between the four of us. but that’s all we’d leave the store with, because it’s all we could afford. believe me, we were hungry enough to have tried smuggling a can of tuna, or a baggie of chips, or whatever. but it never happened, though i later learned the manager figured we stole, simply because of our obvious poverty, and the fact we brought our backpacks with us on days we could buy more food. because we had to carry it home. i was also kicked out of another store, because i was unable to cash a check there.. and when i walked off to spend the four dollars i did have? i was cornered, told to give them my backpack, and kicked out when i refused to act like someone who had been caught doing something wrong- because i hadn’t been. rambling aside, anyone can be in a position of being seen as subhuman and ‘bad by default’. it’s a dangerous side of being privileged, really, to think you could never be anything but.)
M. says:
to further clarify, by ‘to have tried’, i don’t mean we did. i mean we were in a place where i could have understood a person wanting to. we were hungry enough for it to have made sense if we would have. though we never did attempt to steal, despite what people thought.
Anne says:
I have to be honest, this issue of people’s skin colour supposedly defining who they are confuses me greatly. In school we grew up with Jack, Amy and Sally. They were not any colour, they. were. people. We live in an extremely multi cultural city, with persons from all walks of life, so as when it comes to skin colour, we are beyond proud to be the most beautiful human rainbow! We embrace eachother’s cultural differences as we are very aware we are able to bring so much more to the table together, united. We were raised to love all of our fellow Victorians and know no different. I love my Europeans (that’s me), my Aftricans (that’s my in-laws and half of my son), my Asians (that’s my best girl-friend ever) and my First Nations (that’s my adopted sister). This is one obvious matter which completely separates Canadians from USers. Shame on America! Proud to be Canadian! Anne Thompson, Victoria, British Columbia, CANADA
Katherine says:
That’s lovely and I am glad that you grew up in a progressive community like that. I did too, in Berkeley, California.
But just as Berkeley isn’t representative of the entire United States, nor is Victoria. Canada also has its legacy of racism to struggle with, and it is not safely in the past. And the truth is, even places like Berkeley and Victoria have their struggles with race, and pretending “lalalala everything is PEACHY!” does nobody any favors. http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2013/10/27/the_silent_racism_of_post_racial_canada.html
Anne says:
Oh, and as your country seems to define people as skin colours (so odd), as a White Canadian I strongly apologize to every single Black American who has to live under the atrocities of your own nation. Pathetic truly! So sorry! God bless!
Katherine says:
Anne, seriously, it’s healthier to confront the skeletons in your closet. Canada has a race problem too. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/racism-still-an-uncomfortable-truth-in-canada-duncan-mccue-1.2831066
Anne says:
Ahaha…adorable. Am not trying to pretend all is peachy in my neck of the woods, it is that the way your country goes at this issue is so pathetic, that it even is an issue, I felt the need to respond at a similar angle.
Katherine says:
So you feel the need to troll on the page of somebody trying to have a reasonable discussion of this issue?
How very charming.
What is your point exactly?
Anne says:
I would say that Heather is an extremely level headed person and insightful enough to know and realize this is not a direct at her, but rather at the situation. I believe I made myself completely clear about my point in that I feel the way many in your country contribution to the definition of racism is pathetic, simply. You will change your racism by changing how you view people, and putting human value above skin colour.
Katherine says:
Because you’re not explaining yourself well in the least, I have to conclude you’re one of those “pretend race doesn’t exist” people.
But even babies notice skin color.
If you pretend differences don’t exist, they will draw their own conclusions about what the differences they see mean. And the results are not pretty.
http://www.newsweek.com/even-babies-discriminate-nurtureshock-excerpt-79233
I agree that the United States does not handle this issue well. But I’m not sure anybody gets to sit and pat themselves on the back.
Anne says:
I feel as though we are not having the same conversation, and now you are asking me to acknowledge racism? What? Forgive me for stating the obvious, but racism is after all what this post is about. You want me to change my views about people? You want me to change the fact I care about human value? You want me to agree with you? I am not even certain what you are trying to achieve here. What is it that you wanted from me? I did not say racism does not exist, I just feel the fact that it does is pathetic, and if I am not adequately expressing myself well enough, well then I am sorry, I do not know what you want me to say?
Katherine says:
You said this. “We embrace eachother’s cultural differences as we are very aware we are able to bring so much more to the table together, united.” I agree that this is a wonderful thing. But then you said “This is one obvious matter which completely separates Canadians from USers.” I pointed out that it isn’t that simple, and then you got all… weird.
I’m not pointing this out to let America off the hook. We have a big race problem. But there seems to be a teensy bit of defensiveness, denial… something.
Anne says:
I see where you are coming from, but I meant in the general context of the situation. I do not see much racism here, or maybe I do not go looking for it, but when I lived abroad I did see racism often and prejudice, and not in the US (because I do not travel there) but in the UK, Europe and in North Africa. While I grew up without knowing what racism was until I was older, I honestly think my reaction here is from a situation personal. I know someone who was held against her will by her ex-husband in a country not her own, the circumstances still unspeakable, but one does quickly and wholeheartedly learns that no skin colour, ethnicity, nationality, culture, religion or family is to blame for the actions of one individual. Maybe that is a more understandable point. And after all of that, you becoming engraved with the value of human beings, all human beings, except the individuals who wrong you. Period.
Katherine says:
“one does quickly and wholeheartedly learns that no skin colour, ethnicity, nationality, culture, religion or family is to blame for the actions of one individual.” Couldn’t agree more.
But I would suggest you talk to your friends more about this. It’s possible that while you didn’t see racism growing up, they might have different stories to tell. I’m learning a lot from what my friends say. Even though we grew up in the same town, we didn’t grow up in the exact same reality.
Anne says:
Laughing out loud! Jez, I wonder what you could be insinuating? The fact of the matter is I have, and here they did not feel racism growing up, but yes, as adults they have in certain situations. Definitely unfortunate! And? Would you please just tell me what you would like me to say? Because that really would be so much easier. Do you want them too to come online and acknowledge to you they might have felt unfortable in certain situations in their lives? Can it say that I have too? Because I am olive? Please, Katherine, I am just saying that here we do not feel racism with the same brutality as in the States. Is that okay?
Anne says:
Can’t I just say what I want to say? Can’t I? Please? Why not? Did I offend you? Would you just let me feel as I do? Could I? Please?
Katherine says:
See, you’re getting all funny again. And quite defensive! I never said you aren’t entitled to say what you want. And I am not insinuating anything.
I am saying quite bluntly that “This is one obvious matter which completely separates Canadians from USers.” is a ridiculous thing to say because it’s untrue. Canada has an issue with race too. Most of the Western world does.
And I still don’t get what you’re trying to contribute here. This exchange is reminding me of some “mommy blog” discussions where people are talking about problems they’re having with their kids and somebody comes in and chirps “Wow, that sucks for you all that you’re having such problems with your kids! My child is perfect and never does anything wrong! Must be all that kale we fed her!” Whatever your intentions are, it comes off a bit lacking in empathy and insight.
But say what you want! We have the First Amendment here, and it’s Heather’s call what is OK on her page.
Anne says:
I did not read your last comment yet because I do not have time to now. For me, the way I see things is obviously different. I look at many black men walking by me and might think…”humm, he’s hot,” but many look at black men walking by let’s say in the south and think, “Crap, I am going to be robbed.” I would say for me it would be strange to connect the two, so yes racism against black persons is odd to me, especially when I do not see the situation the same as you obviously do. And I am not getting defensive about the situation, laughing out loud, I am getting defensive about a woman who is obviously going to keep coming at me, wanting more, and I am not even sure what the heck you want me to say. I tell you what, when you can be clear with me about what you expect from me, I will then try to respond accordingly. I came here, stating how I feel. I think it sucks, is pitiful racism is so harsh and deadly in the States, and I really do think it is pathetic. My position has not and will not change.
Kyla says:
Ask a single Canadian about the treatment – past and current – of First Nations people and their personal feelings about FN people and then see how high that horse is.
Yup, I’ve lived in both places so I do know.
Anne says:
Yes. First Nations, definitely see a lot of racism.
Anne says:
Actually, you are right Kyla, abuse against aboriginal women in Canada in recent years due to racism, not to mention against the First Nations people in the residential schools in the past has been absolutely horrendous!
Katherine says:
And now we’re getting somewhere! Facing the issue squarely is the way forward.
Anne says:
Yes, but our abuse has been by governmental agencies and serial killers; would you say we see racism often in our own societies, Kyla? I just thought we were more civilized than that.
Katherine says:
So one of the problems in the United States is that people get absolutely defensive talking about racism. They just shut down.
Talking about racism doesn’t have to mean saying that you’re a bad person. It doesn’t mean your community isn’t wonderful.
It just means acknowledging that there are areas where there is room for improvement. You can’t start improving things without acknowledging the problems.
Facing this has been very freeing for me.
It isn’t personal.
Katherine says:
More reading on this subject:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/craig-and-marc-kielburger/canada-racism_b_5845284.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/racism-and-indigenous-canadians-a-conversation-1.2832982
http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/views-expressed/2014/10/why-racism-canadian-nightclubs-so-prevalent
Heather says:
Anne…I really feel like you should stop now. The words you’re choosing aren’t doing you any favors.
Laura says:
I’m Canadian born and raised and still here…and while I’m in a different part of Canada than Anne, it’s the same country, and I would really just like to state that not all Canadians think it’s perfect here. Maybe it is slightly better than the states, but there is racism here too. The silence about racism needs to stop everywhere.
Della Curry says:
No, I’m sorry, it’s not. When James walks through a store wearing a polo and jeans he will be dismissed by any security because of his skin color. Should a black boy walk through wearing the exact same outfit he will still be eyed with suspicion. It’s sad but true. As a (really) white girl with equally white children I get it, I understand what Heather is saying. In no world is she raising her children to think they have an advantage but they do no matter how she raises them.
DefendUSA says:
Heather,
Leave it to me to stir things up…Do not fall prey to the memes about “white privilege.” Who raised the children that run afoul of the law? Who raised the people that rioted in the streets before they even knew all of the facts? We cannot continue to shoulder the blame for everything that goes wrong in the black communities across the country.
The “leaders” known as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are the ones that should be leading by example. Instead, they feed the fire that it’s all about racism and white privilege. Bill Cosby had it right. Do we not all understand right and wrong? And just because one has not been able to take advantage of the things others can, does that mean they don’t have to follow the rules? How many times have you seen a court case where the defense tries to use a poor childhood to say that is what caused someone to take another life? It shouldn’t work like this, but it does.
It stops and starts with the black communities. Have you ever been reprimanded by someone you’ve known for years (and years) because you thought it was okay to make a joke about something that is “typically” black humor because of that friendship? THIS is why you or I cannot change it. The culture and the upbringing is something that is protected if unknowingly. I have been told countless times that I do not understand. What I understand is that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things. And if accountability mattered as opposed to blaming someone else, there would be no rioting in the streets of Ferguson.
Mr. Brown was a suspect. Mr. Brown was identified by Wilson as the alleged suspect of a robbery during a patrol and Wilson attempted to investigate. That is not about white privilege. This is about a cop who happened to be white, and a black robbery suspect.
It is not your fault that James and Annabel will not be looked at sideways, nor mine for my children. It’s good to be compassionate and want to change it, but it will not start with us because it can’t.
Kristen says:
Hold up, you’re quoting a serial rapist as part of your argument? That’s where you lost me.
Jackson says:
I agree with Defend USA. Her choice of Bill Cosby was an error in judgment given what we have learned relatively recently (although he has not been prosecuted so I am withholding complete judgment). I think that Sharpton and Jackson and others are too quick in their assessments and end up fueling the fire.
Bec says:
My thoughts EXCATLY !
Bec says:
Clarify: I agree with Kristen. NOT Defend USA.
DefendUSA says:
The common sense that came out of Bill Cosby’s mouth has nothing to do with the allegations against him, does it?
GreenInOC says:
Are you referring to the “pull up your pants” sentiment that came out of Bill Cosby’s mouth?
To quote Michael Che, “Bill Cosby, pull up YOUR pants”.
Emily says:
Bill Cosby has had the privilege of being a celebrity for decades. The only reason he would be followed around a store is for autographs. What came out of Bill Cosby’s mouth holds no weight and yes, part of that has to do with him being a serial rapist.
Jessica stringer says:
Amen to everything you’ve just said! I live 80 miles from all of this and it is super scary. The black community needs to start making the changes. Black lives aren’t the only ones that matter. They ALL matter. Where is the compassion for officer Wilson? A man who’s life is ruined because he did his job. Michael Brown made bad choices that lead to his death. When will people realize that their actions have consequences? It’s very sad that he lost his life but what if it had been the other way around. What if he was able to get the gun from the officer and killed him? Would this have made national news? No, sadly it would not have. Would there be looting and burning of buildings? No. The black community is who has failed the black community. They need to quit blaming everyone else for poor choices they make. How is looting and burning buildings bringing justice? The only thing that’s doing is making them live up to negative stereotypes.
Annalisa says:
This is about a cop who felt it necessary to shoot someone at close range six times. Six times. That’s an execution, not corralling a suspect.
CheckFacts says:
Have you read the report to find out why he was shot 6 times? Clearly not because your statement that he was shot at close range 6 times is completely false. He was shot at close range a couple of times at first in the car when he was fighting with the officer. He was then shot again at a distance when he continued to come after Officer Wilson. Do not just repeat what you’ve heard. Take the time to read the report and know your facts.
Annalisa says:
Oh, okay. I’m sorry. He only had six gunshot wounds per the results of the autopsy. According to the grand jury report, the officer shot at him 12 times.
Setting aside who was white and who was black, that’s a lot of shooting at one single target, regardless of their behavior.
CheckFacts says:
Actually, I’m sorry. My comment came off rather aggressive. Didn’t intend to.
Annalisa says:
Oh, and much as I hate bringing up that paragon of justice who executed Trayvon Martin in 2012, in this case there wasn’t even room for the “I was overmatched in size, and feared for my life”. Darren Wilson was 6’4″, his assailant was 6’5″. Darren Wilson had a baton, mace and should have had a tazer at his disposal (that he refused to carry it because it allegedly was too bulky is neither here nor there). Once he was no longer in the close confines of the car, he had the time and opportunity to reach for something other than a gun in self defense. That he didn’t is pretty telling of the kind of culture in his police department.
CheckFacts says:
Actually, if we are to believe the testimony of Officer Wilson and the witnesses, then Michael Brown had grabbed and pointed Wilson’s gun at his body and repeatedly hit Wilson at that point in time. In which case, I believe Officer Wilson is within the law to shoot. And in fact, Brown supposedly kept pursuing Wilson and coming towards him despite having been shot! Which would explain why Wilson kept shooting. He was threatened with a weapon and attacked physically. Cops are gonna trained to shoot to kill in that case. Cops are not trained to shoot to wound. And if you grab a cops gun, forget about it. Their life is in danger, and they assume you want to kill them. They wouldn’t bother with a tazer in that case even if they had one. That said, anyone who fundamentally distrusts law enforcement and believes this is all a conspiracy is not going to care about the testimony…shrug.
Annalisa says:
If we are to go by his own testimony, Darren Wilson’s actions stop making sense once Mike Brown started to flee. Backup had been called.
I realize cops are trained to kill in self defense, but if the threat had de-escalated, why put himself in a position where he could continue to be under threat?
I’m not saying this is a conspiracy, I’m saying that clearly some cops don’t believe in a duty to retreat in such cases, and that, at the very least is highly problematic. It skirts close to a license to kill.
Connie says:
100% agree with you Defend. 100%.
Shea says:
It’s hard to even know where to start here, but I will first say: no, you don’t understand. White privilege is real and anyone who doesn’t believe it is naive or willfully ignorant. If you want to believe michael brown deserved what happened then tell me, did the man who walked into a stairwell in Brooklyn this week only to be shot by a cop with no warning deserve it? Did the guy recently shopping in a store selling toy guns who got shot holding said toy gun while saying “it’s not real”? deserve it? Did the guy who got shot by a cop in South Carolina while reaching for his drivers license, which the cop asked for, deserve it? If white privilege isn’t real, if race issues don’t come from us white people, then please, please explain to me why these things happen to black men and boys over and over and over. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are not my favorite people either, but they do not speak for the whole community anymore than any white leader speaks for the entire white community. You don’t like them? Fine. But that doesn’t absolve your responsibility to do what you can to fix this. That doesn’t give you the right criticize the riots over a miscarriage of justice when you see white folks riot over something as stupid as a football game or a pumpkin festival with people hardly batting an eye. This is all of our responsibility and it does all of us a disservice, white and black to say, ” this is not my problem.”
Laura says:
Thank you Shea, very well said. If one does not realize/understand/comprehend that simply by virtue of the color of their skin that the black community is born to a disadvantage and to hostility in this country than you are simply not paying attention. Or you are in denial. There are too many examples of this (some of which Shea memtioned) to delve in to but just look at how our first black president is so blatantly and horrifically disrespected by his colleagues, the media and our citizens. Defend talks about it being up to the black community to lift themselves up but that is hard to accomplish when there is a political party in this country hell bent on taking away many of the tools and programs targeted to help accomplish that very goal. It is hard to accomplish when the color of your skin automatically puts you in the category of a suspicious, dangerous person just by virtue of you walking down the street. A producer out here in Los Angeles was running to his car in Beverly Hills to pay his parking meter when he was stopped by the police, handcuffed, made to sit in the street for an hour then was taken into custody for 6 hours all because he was black and there was a robbery a few miles away by a black guy. JUST BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK. He didn’t fit any other part of the description. Just because he was black. This has got to stop.
Laura says:
This young man was waiting to pick his kids up from school. He arrived early so he was sitting in a public area to kill some time before they were released from school. A nearby store security guard called the police simply because he found it suspicious that a black guy was sitting in a public area. That was it. He wasn’t doing anything but sitting. The cops came and demanded ID and an explanation as to why he was sitting in what the security guy was now calling a “private” area even though there was no signage deeming it private. Just watch the harassment he endures simply by JUST BEING. It’s insane. White people do not have to endure this kind of suspicion, harassment etc simply because we are white. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=297373247116687
Laura says:
Forgot to mention that he is handcuffed and taken into custody IN FRONT OF HIS KIDS. All because he was sitting while being black. Those police officers had no right to ask him for ID or question him, he had done NOTHING wrong and he is 100% correct when he says the only reason they are harassing him is because of the color of his skin. If it had been my white husband sitting and waiting to pick up our white kids he would not have been given a second glance. This happens every day to most of our African-American citizens. Can you imagine going through life with this kind of treatment? Shameful.
DefendUSA says:
I never said Michael Brown deserved to be shot and killed. I did point out that his actions had consequences. And, many issues of race also come from ignorance and perception. If you really believe cops who are white wake up every day wondering which black will make the wrong move so they can shoot to kill, I feel very sorry for you.
If Jackson and Sharpton do not speak for you, who is continually stirring the racist pot that keeps boiling over into the streets of Ferguson? Where is their responsibility? They go home to gated communities while their fellow blacks are going to bed scared by the crap Jackson, Sharpton perpetuate. No one is stepping up. Who will trust me to understand what a black community needs if I were to speak up and get you to listen?
Shea says:
I absolutely do not think white cops wake up every day planning to shoot black men, nor did I imply that. But racial profiling and biases are a proven and significant problem in our justice system. And no one is “stirring the pot” when it comes to these issues. Racism exists and people are justifiably angry about it. This is a good read if you (or anyone else, of course) are genuinely interested in getting a deeper look at what I’m talking about. http://qz.com/250701/12-things-white-people-can-do-now-because-ferguson/
Emily says:
No one said if you commit a crime that you should not be punished accordingly. All of this has nothing to do with that.
It is proven that black males get harsher punishments then someone who has committed the same crime.
Lenora says:
Thank you, Shea! You said everything that I wanted to say. I was sitting in the alley behind my place talking to my black neighbor when the cops drove up and asked lots of questions that didn’t have to do with anything. I know if I had been sitting there by myself, they would have driven on by. Heather, I had forgotten that your father is a retired cop, I’m sure that he was a wonderful officer (he’s Bampa after all!, I am glad you acknowledge that there can be problems. I get very frustrated by people who are willing to excuse cops just because they are cops. Having a badge doesn’t make them any less human! I also get annoyed with people who want to put this on Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton; they do not represent all black people and there are many different black leaders around.
Nope, you racist says:
First, you spout these words and you are coming off racist. Period. Deal and grow from that.
Second, you ask who raise these children, etc. but not how or why “my people” are raised this way. You don’t understand (you are right) that from the moment we were unwillingly brought over that laws were written that were never meant to apply to us, that centuries of being lesser are part of every day life- slave times, Jim Crow laws, legal ways we have been told to submit to mistreatment and the fact that black men have to be raised with different rules of interactions with whites, and authority figures so they don’t become another statistic of being shot, of the deaths of Emmett Till, Trayvon, and Michael brown being realities and warnings instead of tragedies you can look down your nose at and not have to worry about it personally affecting you. Look at it from a different lens. If a battered woman became tired of being oppressed and victimized, and retaliated in some way, would you look at her and scrutinize how she was raised, her culture? No, you’d look at her oppressor and what she had to live with to get to that point.
This right/wrong dichotomy- that should apply to everyone. Where are these super harsh punishments for whites who do wrong (bank leaders, presidents, killers)? How about the white child who committed horrific acts and because of his background was gently let off- affluenza? It shouldn’t work like this but it does.
As far as the jokes- it’s basic human interaction. You can make a joke about your family, I can’t- I don’t know them, haven’t gone thorugh their struggles or know them as people. That’s why you can’t joke and join in the typically black humor- boo hoo. YOu can’t make a racial joke- that’s your disadvantage. The disadvantage of being black in America is much greater, and I firmly support the protection of culture that not only is looked down upon, but has tried to be erased from the start or appropriated for use in pop culture (braids, big butts and lips, etc.- looked down until white culture wants it).
Accountability- we are mad because Darren Wilson is not accountable for killing another human being. Race does play into it as well, simply becaues it’s a pattern, because their is no parallel for non-blacks. Look at mass shooters of late who are white or European looking- Boston, Aurora, etc.- these are dangerous men who were brought in alive, and yet a black teen is killed? What danger did he possess? Why wasn’t a taser used? Backup called? This murder was not the right response. Period.
It is not your fault about how your children will be looked at, but it’s not black people’s fault how their children are perceived either. It goes both ways.
And change? Starts with one- it can start with you and it should.
DefendUSA says:
Slavery ended a long, long time ago…and THAT is exactly what I am talking about. When people continue to blame dead people and laws that are not on the books anymore there is no accountability. And then trot out the battered woman? What has that to do with Ferguson? Do you have the same concern for the black on black killing that has been going on in Chicago? My position has not changed, it was not about racism and it was not about white privilege. This was about a young man who was a robbery suspect, and who did not listen and instead chose the actions that ended in his killing.
DefendUSA says:
The evidence was not there to make the case of a racially motivated killing. It appears the evidence shows self- defense. Do you now want every LEO to walk around with no weapons so this doesn’t happen? White privilege exists, but it not the cause of Michael Brown’s death.
Should every cop who kills then, pay a price? Because that’s where it will go. How many times do you think Officer Wilson has played this out in his head and wondered what could have been done differently? If he had come out to the public to speak on what happened, do you think the people of Ferguson would have believed him? WOuld any of the witnesses who testified before the Grand Jury have stood and said they saw that Wilson was not “miscarrying justice?” No. Because the mentality they’ve been taught is to hate, not to listen or give the benefit of the doubt. Is that slavery’s fault? Is that Jim Crow’s fault? Common sense tell me no.
If I don’t get what I think I deserve, should I riot in the streets? What is that going to change? What does that show the children there? If I get what I want and still riot, what does that say? The only way this should be looked at now, is that the evidence backed up what Wilson said. And sadly, it will not bring Mr. Brown back. Nor will destroying a town and instilling more fear for those left behind.
M says:
I agree with defend 100%. And to julia below. Your ignorance is what is astounding.
I’d love to hear people sugar coat this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2848827/Burn-b-emotional-reaction-Michael-Brown-s-family-repeatedly-called-calm-ultimately-not-hide-anger.html
Nope, you racist says:
Not sugarcoating, but do you realize that these things were said moments after their child’s killer got off completely scott-free and that outside of the heat of the moment. In the clear light of day, to all who will listen that they are calling for peace? No refuting here, but that’s not the whole story.
Lindsay says:
What needs sugar-coating? History and statistics say that if Michael Brown were white, he would be alive OR the police officer would have been indicted. Even as a white person, I am enraged by this. I do not condone answering violence with violence, but I also cannot say that if Michael Brown were my child, I would be any calmer than what this article depicts.
SMH at this nonsense says:
Love to hear what you might say in the same situation. How callous can you be?
Nope, you racist says:
No, I want body cameras- I want accountability recorded from both sides and YES it is in part the cause of Michael Brown’s death.
The mentality WE have been taught is to look deeper than what you are given at first because given statistics, given the day to day reality and discrimination NO the benefit of the doubt has not been earned. There is none of this listening, and teaching not to hate, or benefit of the doubt when dealing with suspected black criminals or sometimes just people who happen to be black. The kind of mentality you talk about has to be earned over time, through consistency and it just hasn’t yet. Period.
Your privilege allows you to believe otherwise.
Julia says:
DefendUSA- Your ignorance is astounding.
Nope, you racist says:
I did not use slavery to remove accountability, merely to counter your questions about “who raises these people”? Because the bigger question is why has there been a centuries long systematic oppression of people of color. And it is not a “pass” for those who use violence, but a reality that is in part the reason that there is the anger behind the actions. The battered woman analogy is saying fine, if you really want an answer to why people are so fed up they’re turning to violence that you can’t blame the victims- you can’t blame this anger and destruction solely on the black community “messing up”. You need to look at the larger issue of how it appears to you that the community got that way- of the wrongs committed against them. And before you counter, I urge you to think of how long and how persistently the community is mistreated. Your very position is coming from the privilege of not having to think in that way much less empathize. Nobody was asking for you to “rescue” or “shoulder” things, just that you open your eyes to your privilege, and NOT be part of an oppressive, dehumanizing mistreatment of a WHOLE RACE of people.
And this was NOT only about a young man who was a robbery suspect, and he did NOT choose the actions that ended in his killing. He MAY have chosen actions that would end in a negative consequence, but what facts we may know- possible shoplifting, jaywalking, physical intimidation does not equal SIX shots and death. It’s equal to being subdued, it’s equal to getting in trouble. It’s a race issue because I’m sure in some part that the narrative of the “scary black man” played a role. I think i mentioned before about white murderers apprehended, and not murdered- those were actions deserving of results of killing if that should ever be the case at all. If he had been white, he would still be alive.
Susan says:
“Bill Cosby had it right. Do we not all understand right and wrong?”
Really?
REALLY?
From what I’ve heard, Bill Cosby doesn’t understand it at all.
DefendUSA says:
Again, Bill Cosby’s words have nothing to do with the allegations against him, as they still resonate and should.
Again, innocent until proven guilty.
Lindsay says:
Yes, innocent until proven guilty … unless you’re a black male near a police officer, right?
Oh, the irony.
Lindsay says:
This police officer SHOT DOWN a robbery suspect before he was proven guilty of anything. And you’re defending it because he was a suspect. And THEN saying “innocent until proven guilty.” You really see no contradiction there?
Laura says:
I wish there was a “like” button for Lindsay’s posts!
Emily says:
The only reason you are defending Bill Cosby is because he is a Black man whose words you can use to defend your racism. If he was just a random Black man with 17 rape “allegations” you’d probably be quick to support a life sentence.
Heather says:
White privilege is not a meme. If the people who benefit from it do nothing, then nothing will change.
GreenInOC says:
Since you understand right and wrong so well, and clearly better than anyone else, could you please explain why the cops in Ferguson would arrest the wrong man, proceed to beat him and then CHARGE him for getting his blood on their uniforms from the beating he received at their hands? What would have been the right thing for him to do (clearly, the police were right in their actions, correct?), should he have never left his house? What cultural changes could have been made to prevent this? What did he do wrong?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/15/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html
“I have been told countless times that I do not understand.” Perhaps therein lies a clue.
Mary Kay says:
Heather thank you for putting this problem in such eloquent terms. Yes there is white privilege and racism alive and well. Probably more heightened in some areas of the country than others. I have a great nephew who is 7 years old who dad is black. I (an older white woman) have seen the looks he receives already at 7 that neither of my sons received at that age. And I don’t live in one of those states known for its racial problems.
C says:
I agree completely with DefendUSA.
mary kay says:
Heather you said this so perfectly. White privilege and racism are alive and well in this country — more so in some regions. I have a great nephew who dad is black. While with me (an old white woman) he has received “looks” and he is only 7. My two sons never, never, never were looked at like this. Michael Brown was killed over a “shoplift” of $10.00. Why didn’t Wilson call for back up and wait for back up before proceeding. On the two occasions I have been stopped for a traffic violation, the car stopping me has waited for another police car to arrive and I live in Minnesota.
Michelle says:
This is beautifully written Heather. Anyone who thinks white privilege doesn’t exist is living in a dream world. It’s not necessarily our fault it exists, but it is our responsibility to do something about it. I’m heartbroken thinking about explaining this to my children when they get older. I live 20 minutes away from Ferguson in Illinois so this is happening in my backyard and it’s terrifying.
This has less to do with Michael Brown and Darren Wilson and so much more to do with the horrifying racial tensions in this area. We HAVE to do something.
PoliceSupporter says:
No, actually, this has to do with someone engaging in criminal behavior who assaulted a police officer. It is very tragic this young man lost his life. It’s tragic that the choice he made to do wrong cost him his life. When I look at the Trayvon Martin case, I see a miscarriage of justice. Trayvon should never have had to die. His assailant willingly left his car to start trouble, despite police telling him to remain in his vehicle, and yet the murderer didn’t spend a day in jail. That’s wrong. I don’t see the same situation here, I’m sorry. Mom is also no prize, in case nobody noticed. So please stop apologizing for being white. Start looking at the culture that is out looting and supporting people like Kanye as cultural icons, and that’s where you’ll find some of your answers.
Heather says:
I agree that Trayvon Martin’s case was a horrible miscarriage of justice, but you lost me when you attacked Mike Brown’s mother. That you would think a comment like that is okay speaks volumes.
PoliceSupporter says:
Please read some of the news surrounding the aftermath if you’d like to know why I may have made that statement. I will apologize for not phrasing it better above, but I won’t apologize for my opinion. I can feel sorry for her loss and also question her behavior. When you post these types of things, you’ll get opinions on both sides. If I’ve offended you, you should remove my comments and I won’t post anything further.
JT says:
When did Heather say she didn’t want to hear your opinion on this? She just disagreed with you, which she is allowed to do. The fact that you went there right away is pretty telling about where you are coming from.
You can be a police supporter. And also think what happened was wrong. Those aren’t contradictory. The lives of black men matter. The lives of cops matter. That’s not contradictory either.
Heather, good for you for not bring silent. I wouldn’t be able to handle the comments you are getting/will be getting. It just makes me too sad that this is the world we live in. I couldn’t even get past the ignorance of the first comment here.
PoliceSupporter says:
A debate is two people arguing. It’s not, “you’re ignorant”, “you’re racist”, etc. etc. If you disagree, show me why I’m wrong. If you “can’t get past the ignorance” don’t have a debate. If you feel offended, don’t post the comment. It’s that simple. I never said Heather couldn’t have her opinion. It’s her blog, she can do whatever she wants and if I don’t like that, I should go elsewhere, right?
GreenInOC says:
@PoliceSupporter, can you not make you point without the innuendo of attacks that didn’t happen.
“I won’t apologize” – nobody asked you to…
“If I’ve offended you” – who said they were offended?
“I should go elsewhere, right?” – where did that come from?
JT says:
My point was that Heather never said you have to go elsewhere. And I think it’s telling where you are coming from that you keep going there.
And yes; me not being able to get past the ignorance of the first comment, is exactly why I didn’t start a debate with the first commentator on her post.
JT says:
Or what GreenInOC said.
It seems like you want to be attacked and have an argument that isn’t happening here. Have the debate you want to have, but don’t act like you’ve been attacked. (Please more: I never said your comment was ignorant.)
PoliceSupporter says:
“innuendo of attacks”–it’s really not that dramatic.
JT says:
I don’t know. I think the dramatic one is the one insisting they won’t apologize and should go elsewhere, when no one is saying that. But I guess I just don’t know how to debate. Shrugs.
PoliceSupporter says:
Thanks for the armchair psychoanalysis. I guess I was hoping to see what sort of evidence from the case I had failed to correctly consider. That, to me, is an argument–something where there is potential to change the other person’s view. Without that, nothing progresses. Dialogue shuts down when we think we know volumes about people from a blog post.
JT says:
Oh lord. Saying your post speaks volumes or is telling is not armchair psychoanalyzing. It is telling that you are exaggerating this argument and implying you are being so attacked that you aren’t allowed to post here. Nobody is saying that to you.
But go ahead, you keep having the argument you want to have, no matter what other people are saying in reply.
Julia says:
But knowing volumes about (and judging) a mother who just lost her son by reading a few news articles is cool though.
PoliceSupporter says:
All feelings again, no facts, JT.
PoliceSupporter says:
People are judged on their behavior, yes. I can feel sorry for someone’s loss and make assessments about their behavior, yes. I can also feel horribly sorry for what happened to Adam Lanza’s mother and question why she provided her son with unlimited access to weapons.
JT says:
What facts am I supposed to present?
You said you won’t go elsewhere. Nobody told you to. Those are facts.
You said you won’t apologize. Nobody asked you too. Facts.
JT says:
Also am I missing where you are providing facts? Seems youre going by feelings too.
M says:
That his parents think this insofar speaks volumes
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2848827/Burn-b-emotional-reaction-Michael-Brown-s-family-repeatedly-called-calm-ultimately-not-hide-anger.html
Shea says:
“Mom is no prize”? Are we talking about the same mother who has repeatedly asked protesters to be peaceful even after her son was shot and his body left in the street for hours? And wow, what an assault it was! Have you seen officer Wilson’s injuries? Devastating. They totally justify shooting someone multiple times! http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/24/7279311/ferguson-darren-wilson-injuries
M says:
Wake up http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2848827/Burn-b-emotional-reaction-Michael-Brown-s-family-repeatedly-called-calm-ultimately-not-hide-anger.html
Katherine says:
What the hell do you expect from people? If you lost your son in a horrific shooting, your town was exploding, and you felt that you were robbed of any hope of justice and that the police wouldn’t protect you… how would you feel? I know I would have been losing my sh*t long before that point.
Have some empathy.
JT says:
A tabloid is definitely a good source and won’t exaggerate for dramatic effect….,
Also, what does the family getting mad proof? That their son deserved to die??
Shea says:
LOL. The Daily Mail is a tabloid so I was prepared to not take this seriously. But I just looked at it and I fail to see what you’re trying to show me. That his parents were initially very angry after they found out their son’s killer won’t be tried? Then when they collected their thoughts and emotions they released a public statement asking for peace. We can’t control our raw emotions but we can control our actions. And their actions were nothing but admirable.So… What’s the issue here?
Leslie Gibson says:
I just read the article you (police supporter) linked to. It reports that Brown’s mother cried and collapsed sobbing and asked to meet with the prosecutor. And also that she yelled “what do you mean, no indictment?!” I don’t really see this as “Mom is also no prize.” What? She behaved EXACTLY how I would expect a grieving mother who hoped she would get a fair trial from a predominantly white trial. She implored people to remain calm BECAUSE she thought the justice system would do what is right. And now she is justifiably upset and probably feeling like her son died all over again. Her husband said “let’s burn this b**** down” in the heat of the moment, but she did not do or say anything that warrants being called “no prize.”
As for supporting police, I am generally very supportive of law enforcement. However I have several concerns here: first, if Brown and his friend had been white, would the police officer have even bothered telling them to get on the sidewalk? In my experience, teenagers walk in the street ALL THE TIME and nobody seems to care. Second, people have been saying that cops are trained to shoot to kill. Why is that? Maybe that is something that needs to be changed. Because shooting to stop does not need to result in another person’s death. If a cop feels threatened, he should neutralize the situation, not necessarily kill. And yes, Brown had committed a crime, but from everything I’ve read (including both the officer and Brown’s friend’s account), that the officer thought Brown was the same person who committed the shoplifting never even came up.
Lucy says:
I think the problem is general perception… Just to give you an example… I am mexican, living in Europe for 12 years now. I am a legal immigrant, my company sent me here, so I have always worked, I have always payed my taxes and followed the rules. Sunday, I am at the park with my kids (a 3 years old and 1 years old), suddenly out of nowhere a running dog comes and circles my son almost making him fall of the bike. I kindly (even though a bit pissed) ask his owner (and old lady) to put the leash to the dog, as it is forbidden to let unleashed dogs run in this park. Her reponse was to start yelling at me saying I was a stupid latinamerican immigrant and if I didn’t like the way things were I could go back to my shitty Country…. All of this in front of my kids… My oldest kept on asking me why was she so mad with us, what did immigrant meant and so on… I was shocked, but for me the worst was the fact that my kids, at this young age, had to witness already an act of discrimination, just because their mom happens to be mexican. That woman didn’t know me, didn’t know my life, didn’t know anything of me, good or bad, but to her, because of my look, I was just a stupid, dirty, illegal immigrant…..
Heather says:
Lucy, I unfortunately see this kind of behavior toward Mexicans regularly here in Los Angeles. I am so sorry that happened to you, especially in front of your children. It’s not okay.
dregina says:
Just wanted to say thank you for sharing your story and your perspective as the child of a peace officer. I cannot imagine what it must feel like to be the mother of a black son in America, so frightening.
Heather says:
I can’t imagine, either, and that is truly the reason why I wrote this.
Margie says:
I read something online earlier that really struck me.
In Germany, place of the horrific Holocaust, reminders are everywhere. They face the past while here in America, we hide our ugly histories.
http://awesomemargie.tumblr.com/post/103549357276/hartorotica-sandandglass-bryan-stevenson-on
OhDear says:
Heather, I get what you are saying, I’m white too and yes, I don’t know what it’s like to be looked at like a black male. I have black cousins, black friends, live in a large city…and unfortunately the issue isn’t even about Michael Brown at this point. Where is the outrage over black on black crimes?! Black people don’t seem to be upset over that, but then when an officer protecting people (after the facts & evidence showed he was in the right) shoots someone (one happens to be white, one happens to be black) it become a full on race issue. And people like Jessi Jackson, Al Sharpton, and even your friend Karen are keeping racism alive. And that’s what hurts the most. At what point is it ok to loot, riot, burn, and vandalize!? Never. Those people who are doing that are the reason police officers have a very hard job. It breaks my heart for the Brown family he died, and it breaks my heart as an American this is still going on today. RESPECT the law, RESPECT people, and this could have had a totally different outcome.
SMH at this nonsense says:
Yeah, you’re a little confused.
OhDear says:
Heather, you can delete my comments. Thanks! Sorry about that, I get so worked up but just feel it won’t do any good and it only fuels the fire. Sorry about that!
Helen Jane says:
Uh, Karen is not keeping racism alive. Just thought I’d put that out there.
Shea says:
The thing that really pisses me off is that the vast majority of the time, grand juries choose to indict…except when cops are involved. You think there was a lot of uncertainty in this case? Great, that’s what a trial is for! Oh except, now we won’t get that opportunity. My fears over this indictment not happening have never been that there would be more rioting, but that we’ll have more Darren Wilsons who can kill with impunity. Are all cops racist? No. Are all cops bad people? Of course not. But we undoubtedly need more accountability for cops.
Kristen says:
Heather,
Thank you so much for not letting last night go unspoken about. It means a lot to me that you are willing to speak out at at time when it may not be popular and about something that not everyone will agree with. xo
Kristen
Katherine says:
Hey, I think we should thank DefendUSA for sharing his comment.
I mean, what more perfect illustration of the fact that racism is alive and well in America could you hope to find? What more perfect example of the negative attitudes black people still have to deal with?
We have a long way to go. Clearly.
Laura says:
AMEN Katherine!!
Courtney says:
I agree! I can’t even forumlate a response because I am so worked up by DefendUSA’s reply. I will leave it to others more eloquent than me. But what a perfect example of the kind of denial people in this country still live in regarding racism. I’m just appalled.
Thank you, Heather and Katherine, for speaking on behalf of those who do recognize that the racial divide in this country is not okay. We need to speak up.
Debbie A-H says:
Thank you for this. I, too, believe in police officers. My sister is an officer. But I know we all have biases, whether we want to believe it or not. Ever lock your car door when a black teenager walks by? I have. I hate that there is a part of me that reacts that way. But acknowledging that it is there helps me work to eradicate those biases and see all people equally. I have to see it in myself to fix it.
I have an African American friend who always told her son, “You are no worse than anybody else, but you are also no better.” She told her son this so he would know he is not less than because he is black. I tell my white son the same thing because I want him to know he is not better than because he was born white. I don’t have to worry about my son when he walks down the street. She does. My heart breaks.
Katherine says:
“But I know we all have biases, whether we want to believe it or not.” Yes. This.
Glenda says:
Thank you Heather! The riots & vandalism…so unnecessary. And the disrespect for others property… I hope for peace in Ferguson. In my family we are the United Nations. I have nephews / nieces that are black, white & Hispanic. Change has to happen. I was raised we all have the same choices & there’s consequences for the bad.
Laura says:
“Defend(ing) USA” should apply to all of our citizens, not just the white ones.
Julia says:
I’m flabbergasted by the top two comments on this thread. First, it’s absolutely abhorrent that you would quote Bill Cosby. Second, you don’t think white privilege exists in this country? I suggest you listen to this story on StoryCorps:
“Landau was 19 at the time, driving around Denver with a friend in the passenger seat. He noticed red and blue lights behind him. The officer who pulled him over “explained I had made an illegal left turn, and to step out of the car,” Landau says.
“So I get out of the car first,” he says. “And then he goes around to the passenger side and pulls my friend Addison out of the car. … Addison is white, and he had some weed in his coat pocket. So he gets placed in handcuffs.”
Landau thought he was safe. He wasn’t in handcuffs, he says, and he’d already been patted down. “Plus there’s three officers on the scene. And I had never had a negative interaction with police in my life.
“So I ask them, ‘Can I please see a warrant before you continue the search?’ ” Landau says. “And they grab me and began to hit me in the face. I could hear Addison in the background yelling, ‘Stop! Leave him alone.’
“I was hit several times, and I remember gasping for air” and spitting blood, he says.
“And then I hear an officer shout out, ‘He’s reaching for a gun,’ “I immediately started yelling, ‘No, I’m not. I’m not reaching for anything.’ ”
Landau felt a gun against his head, he says. “And I expected to be shot. And at that point I lost consciousness. …
“It took 45 stitches to close up the lacerations in my face alone,” Landau says.
After his mother saw him “it wasn’t my injuries that hurt,” he says. “It was just seeing how it devastated you. … For me, it was the point of awakening to how the rest of the world is going to look at you. I was just another black face in the streets, and I was almost another dead black male.”
In 2011, Alex was awarded a $795,000 settlement by the City of Denver. Two of the police officers involved have since been fired for uses of excessive force not related to this incident.
http://www.npr.org/2014/08/15/340419821/after-a-traffic-stop-teen-was-almost-another-dead-black-male
GreenInOC says:
@Julia, thank you for sharing that even though I feel sick. I don’t know how I can keep having the feeling of shock over and over when I hear these stories.
Lindsay says:
Heather, I thank you for writing this. Even if many of your readers clearly have no concept of white privilege (which was proven years ago during the Halloween costume debate/debacle), it DOES exist, and I appreciate you sharing your voice.
I’m too enraged by the top comments to respond to them directly.
Heather says:
I look back at that and am embarrassed by how ignorant I was.
Lindsay says:
I remember jumping into that post because I felt the same way at the time … so, SO embarrassed for how blinded I had been, even just a year before, to the privileges of being white.
I had NO idea.
Until I started studying to be a teacher for under-served students. And then the stories started pouring in from all the teachers of color with whom I was training. And then I became a teacher, and I see it for myself. How my students – these bright, amazing, determined kids – are daily told, both directly and indirectly – they are “less than” by those in authority because of their skin color.
I am just their teacher. I honestly cannot imagine what their parents feel like, what their parents fear for them.
Again, thank you for writing this.
Emerson says:
I’m just going to quietly remind everyone that none of the folks on social media suddenly have law degrees or access to the evidence that the grand jury had. A minimum of 9 of 12 civilians (not cops, not lawyers, not judges, not “the system”) had to believe there wasn’t probable cause that Wilson committed any crime. Not “beyond a shadow of doubt,” like in court…just probable cause of ANY crime. After this media sh!tstorm, to convince that many people that he didn’t…assume there was compelling evidence that you don’t have access to.
I’m not going to speak to how it feels to be a person of colour in the US, because I can’t. I’m not a person of colour, nor am I American, so I’m not touching that subject.
What I will say is this: regardless of your skin colour, your economic status, your background, your political affiliations or anything else, raise your children with a healthy respect for the law and the people that risk their lives to enforce it. Don’t give them uber realistic toy guns to run around with. Don’t teach them that law doesn’t apply to them.
Teach them to respect the law and its officers. Teach them to treat police with the same courtesy they’d like to be treated. Follow directions an officer gives, whether you like it or not. Deal with perceived injustices with peaceful protest, or lobbying, or a million other LEGAL ways to be heard, instead of looting and arson.
When you act like an idiot or a thug and harm innocent people, no one hears your message. They just see idiocy.
GreenInOC says:
@Emerson, how do you know that evidence people have access to?
The transcripts were being made available since shortly after the announcement last night:
http://apps.stlpublicradio.org/ferguson-project/evidence.html
Emerson says:
I’m glad that’s been released, but if you honestly believe that the average person has taken the time to read every one of those documents, you’re kidding yourself. The general public accepts what they’re told in the media. Professional media virtually always has a bias, and social media (especially that written by non experts) is even worse. Yet people are very quick to believe it. That’s more what I was referring to. Even if we take the time to read the documents, it’s not the same as hearing the testimony.
GreenInOC says:
@Ferguson, while I am devastated by the violence when the LEGAL “way” has been yanked out from under people and with a preponderance of evidence of racism running rampant for just have the audacity of living, I can understand that anger is expressed.
GreenInOC says:
@Emerson, “When you act like an idiot or a thug and harm innocent people, no one hears your message.” – unless the thug is a cop.
PoliceSupporter says:
@GreenInOC-Your point is valid. I think there are definitely rogue cops. I absolutely do. The question is how do we support law enforcement but also support supervision of cops who do become out of control? Are cameras a good idea?
Heather says:
I think cameras are an excellent idea. That is also what the Brown family is advocating for.
PoliceSupporter says:
I think that’s a really good idea.
Emerson says:
I think cameras are a double edged sword, like most other policing tools.
On the positive side, they protect good civilians and good cops. Statistically, reports against police officers have dropped when the officer is wearing a body cam. I’d argue this is three fold: officers behave better when they know they’re being recorded, civilians behave better when they know they’re being recorded and false reports of police misconduct will drop when civilians know the encounter was taped. It also will show an entire encounter, instead of civilian videos that just shoot the worst of what the person sees. That’s all great.
However, there’s negatives as well. A camera also tends to shut people down, particularly victims. Trying to establish a rapport with a victim of sexual assault (as an example) will be extremely tough with Big Brother literally staring him/her in the face. With these kinds of crimes already having an abysmally low report rating, will having to talk to a camera make it even worse? It’s possible. Invasion of privacy and another form of surveillance given to a government organization will make a lot of people uncomfortable.
I’d like to say that I’m okay with them if the officer has discretion of when to turn it off. Now that’s in an ideal world because it’s not feasible — officers will turn them off to hide their own sins and that’s not okay. But finding that balance between accountability and invasion will be a difficult one with body cams.
amandabarnes says:
The post above expresses my sentiments on this issue exactly!
azalai says:
Thanks a lot for this post, Heather. It means a lot for me an I understand how painful must have been for you to write. Thanks for being decent and understand how the life of others is just because they were born with the “wrong” skin colour
Kristina Venegas says:
Wow. How incredibly eye opening and surprising it is to see how many racists read this blog.
JT says:
I agree. I was very saddened when I woke up this morning and saw my Facebook feed. These comments are only making that sadness worse.
I guess I’ve been living in a bubble.
Thanks for not being silent, Heather. You’ve definitely woken me up that I can’t be silent any more either.
amandabarnes says:
Racist?? Why does having a differing opinion make someone racist? The grand jury, who heard the witness accounts first hand, decided that the officer acted legally. If I agree that this decision was correct, how does that make me racist?
I acknowledge that racism and white privilege exist in this country, but I do not think that the Michael Brown shooting was an example of that. That does not make me a racist.
I agree that change needs to occur and I will stand with those who support that change in a legal, peaceful way. The fact that I do not support those who are acting illegally does not make me a racist.
I do not apologize for being born white, just as I would not expect someone who was born black, Hispanic or Asian to apologize for being born that way. I was not alive when slavery was legal or when the Jim Crow laws were in place, so I will not spend my life apologizing for something I had absolutely nothing to do with. This does not make me a racist.
I support laws that help promote equality among all races and sexes and I teach my children that it is the quality of our character and not the color of our skin for which we should be judged. The fact that Michael Brown was a thief who refused to obey a police officer’s commands and then attacked the officer tells me a lot about his character and what kind of person he was, and that has nothing at all to do with race.
SMH at this nonsense says:
WOW! You prove their point!
JT says:
No one said if you disagree on this subject you are racist. No one. It is not simply a matter of disagreeing that he should have been inducted or not that is making people use the word racist.
It’s a complex situation. We are all intelligent adults and understand that its not s straight black and white, right and wrong situatiom. And honestly the more people insist that it’s not racist to gave differing opinions when NO ONE is saying that, it makes me question where they are coming from.
Amandabarnes says:
Actually there are several people on this comment thread who are throwing the word racist around at those who disagree with their point of view. Have you read through the comments?
JT says:
Yes, yes I have read the comments. But no one is saying you are racist simply because you disagree that he should have been indicted. It’s much more complex than that. And some of the things said here are not just “differing opinions.” Some of the things being said are, at best, clueless and, at worst, racist.
JT says:
And the insistence that nothing here is racist, it’s simply a differing opinion, is exactly why Heather needed to write this post.
Shea says:
PS: I sure hope anyone criticizing riots over inequality and a gross miscarriage of justice got just as worked up over this crap: https://storify.com/betakateenin/white-people-riots
PoliceSupporter says:
Point well taken. We have a horribly violent society across the board. We need to start looking at why that is. Let’s take the NH college kids–all white–who started looting and setting fires at what should have been a fall festival. They should all have been expelled. It’s not lost on me that we don’t hear or see nearly as much on that incident.
CheckFacts says:
I agree with Emerson as well as some of the other posters. We have a problem. Clearly. The Ferguson case IMO is not an example of that problem. And why it has become the example is confusing to me. Read the report. Learn about what witnesses (not just the ones who came forward with the media initially, but also the ones who testified for the grand jury) had to say. Read about the opinions of THREE medical professionals who performed autopsies. Don’t base your judgement of this case on what the media has shown you since August.
There are many MANY credible examples of innocent black Americans being unfairly targeted by law enforcement. We need to be talking about those. I do not feel that this case should be the poster child for why change needs to occur and making it that just causes people to question the credibility of the movement.
PoliceSupporter says:
I fully agree.
GreenInOC says:
“The medical investigator did not take photographs at the scene of Brown’s killing because the camera battery had died”
The investigator, who goes to the crime scene to collect evidence for the pathologist, also did not take measurements of anything at the scene because they “didn’t need to.””
So which is it?:
“The Ferguson police officer who shot Michael Brown didn’t stop him because he was suspected in a convenience-store robbery, but because he was “walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic,” the city’s police chief said Friday.” (08/15/14)”
“Wilson told the grand jury his original goal was to arrest Brown, after identifying him as a possible suspect in a shop theft. “My main goal was to keep eyes on him and just to keep him contained until I had people coming there,” he testified.”
CheckFacts says:
I don’t understand your point?? Are you trying to point out discrepancies because I don’t see one here. He stopped him for blocking traffic. He was in the area of a reported robbery. He wanted to hold him until backup arrived. Did you keep reading?
“I knew I had already called for backup and I knew they were already in the area for the stealing that was originally reported. So I thought if I can buy 30 seconds of time, that was my original goal when I tried to get him to come to the car. If I could buy 30 seconds of time, someone else will be here, we can make the arrest, nothing happens, we are all good. And it didn’t happen that way.”
He told Brown to get on the sidewalk and then noticed the cigarettes meeting the description of the robbery item in Brown’s hand. He then attempted to keep Brown with him as he waited for back up.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/brittany-m-hughes/policeman-brown-he-grabbed-my-gun-he-twisted-it-pointed-me
Why the MEDICAL investigator did not have a way to take pictures is unfortunate. As far as measurements go, I guess I can believe that it’s not necessary for a medical investigator to do that while it obviously would be for the criminal investigation.
Shannon says:
Just because somebody has a different opinion does not make them a racist… This is an emotional and touchy subject.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness:
only light can do that.
Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
CheckFacts says:
I thought this was an amazing speech by the Milwaukee police chief for a lot of reasons. Especially because he made me think – how f*cked up is it that likely none of us can remember the name of a single innocent victim of community violence in Ferguson or our own areas of the country from the past year? People in the wrong place at the wrong time. Children killed who were in their own homes with their families. We don’t remember their names, do we? I’m willing to bet most of the rioters and even most of the peaceful protesters don’t either. Were is the outrage in the community when those events take place? There is typically a vigil and some small protests by local organizations, but we certainly don’t get as excited as we do when we get to go after cops, huh?
Shea says:
I agree it’s important to remember and acknowledge all victims of senseless acts of violence. However, the perpetrators of such incidents are more often than not tried and even convicted of their crimes. The reason people get so “excited” in situations involving cops, such as this one, is because the cops often aren’t even punished for their actions. I think that’s an important distinction to make. Cops need to be held accountable for their actions just like the rest of us, and when they aren’t people get justifiably angry and excited.
Julia says:
However, implying that the black community doesn’t know how to raise their children certainly does make you a racist.
Katherine says:
Thank you for posting this Heather.
And for those getting defensive and feeling like they have to say that they aren’t racist… try to get past the discomfort. Accept that we live in an unequal society and that we all are exposed to messages and cues about people in different groups. Accept that these messages affect us. Awareness is useful.
Kari says:
Thanks for posting this, Heather. And I too am shocked at the number of racists who read your blog… and the number of racists overall in this country… especially because they are completely oblivious to their racism, which is even more horrifying. Keep speaking out for what’s right. We appreciate you for doing so.
Jill says:
I agree that there is so much hate being written about police officers in general. And that is not fair. The majority of police officers do not deserve the things that are being said about them. The majority of police officers are heroes who put their lives at risk.
That being said, I heard one comment when I was watching the news last night that has stuck with me. To paraphrase, it mentioned that if a gang member shot and killed an unarmed teenager, they would be on trial and in jail with no doubt. Police do have riskier jobs than most of us, but they should still be accountable for their actions, especially when someone dies who shouldn’t have.
amandabarnes says:
The people who are calling others racist for having a differing opinion are driving me crazy.
A racist is defined as a person who believes a particular race is superior to another. I have seen no racist comments on this blog, only differing opinions.
Name calling and trying to make people who have a different point of view feel ashamed for that opinion are not helping to affect change. If anything, they are only fueling the flames of disconnect.
M says:
I agree! A lot of people in here are sounding like frasie during this episode.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0582504/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
M says:
*frasier
JT says:
I think racism can be much more subtler than just feeling a clear sense of superiority because of skin color.
For instance, I think it can be racist to insist that white privilege doesn’t exist, because you haven’t seen it or personally felt it or don’t understand it. It will be easier for Heather as a mother when James is a teenager and going out with his friends than it was for Trayvon Martin’s mother. Heather won’t have to worry about her son and his interactions with cops.
I’m not implying that you or anyone else here is a racist. I haven’t read all the comments. I just don’t think its as black and white as just a feeling of superiority.
Kristen says:
I came back because when I posted my original comment there weren’t many others yet, and I wanted to see how other readers are feeling… Wow. I can’t say I’m shocked at the comments on this post. And while I don’t feel like inserting myself into the debate (I’m so weary…), all I really want to reiterate is that you’re BRAVE, don’t let people who disagree with you stop you from speaking your mind. It is those who are willing to speak out who will make a difference. The onus of responsibility does not lie with the oppressed to make their voices be heard. It is our duty to amplify their message.
Melissa says:
To be honest, I haven’t been following the situation that closely so I can’t comment on whether he was justified in shooting or not. I thought I had heard he assaulted the officer but maybe that’s incorrect. Of course, shoplifting and even hitting a police officer doesn’t justify shooting someone 6 times.
White privilege and racism absolutely do exist. It’s unfortunate. However, it’s frustrating when people think everything that happens to someone who is not white is an act of racism. Sometimes I’m sure it is (and may be in the Michael Brown case) but I’m guessing a lot of times it’s not. In my city many, many years ago there was an African-American man walking on the street with a machete. The police arrived and told him to put it down. He charged at officers and they shot him. Everyone was upset and said it was racist. Completely disregarding the fact that he had an instrument that could do irreparable harm to people.
In my city (also where I grew up) we have a ton of diversity. If you look through photos of my birthday parties there are kids of all different races, religions and ethnicities. I didn’t care. I still don’t care. This world will be a better place when everyone stops thinking the color of your skin is of such importance. Sadly, I think we are a long ways away from that.
Kyla says:
Thanks Heather, when you have such a big voice and loyal readers it is an act of courage to say what you what you really think and feel. Honesty – the kind that doesn’t attack and demean people – is so rare on the internet. And the amount of vitriol posted here is so shocking, and so wearying.
Karen from Chookooloonks says:
Thank you, friend. It is clear, by the hostility of several of your commenters, that you took a HUGE risk in writing this. And I know that you wrote this, in part, because I challenged you to. I can’t tell you how much this means to me. I can tell you that for every bit of hatred that you are forced to read in your comments section, you are also earning tons of respect — from me, yes, but from so many others.
Thank you, friend. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
K.
Shea says:
Heather, I just wanted to say one more thing to you directly. Thank you for addressing this. It’s awkward, it’s uncomfortable, it’s contentious. It’s obviously a very touchy topic and people have strong feelings on either side. But it’s something that needs to be talked about, and I admire and appreciate you for being willing to bring it up. Change won’t happen if we refuse or are afraid to discuss difficult topics.
Heather B. says:
Wow. I’m sitting here laughing at the absurdity of many of these comments. For those of you questioning the existence of racism, take a good, long look in the mirror: YOU are the problem.
SMH at this nonsense says:
YES!
Shauna says:
These comments are exactly why you needed to write this, so thank you for that.
Linda says:
Heather, thank you for this post. I appreciate your thoughtfulness on this issue. White privilege is not a meme.
The poster who said “…it’s frustrating when people think everything that happens to someone who is not white is an act of racism” that statement is racist. The murder of unarmed black kids is not “everything.”
As a white woman, I will never begin to know what it’s like to be a victim of racism, but I must admit that it’s a reality.
Steph says:
Heather, Thanks for your honest, thoughtful writing. Here is a bit of uplifting news about the owner of a shop in Ferguson who is getting help from the internet. http://www.gofundme.com/NataliesCakesnMore
Sandy says:
I definitively believe that perceptions of other races and socio-economic groups exist. I’m white and couldn’t even pretend to know what it is like to grow up black. I grew up in a very poor part of my city and the high school I went to closed and we merged with a high school in a very affluent part of town. The people from our new HS were referred to as “white Trash” and “hoodrats”. If anything was missing, we were the first people suspected of stealing or destroying property or drinking or taking drugs when in reality we didn’t have the money to do some of that stuff. I could only imagine how worse it would have been if I was Latino or Black.
I watched an interview with someone from St. Louis who said the shooting was just the match that lit the fuse of problems between the community and the police that had been ready to explode for years. I think the majority of the people in the town are decent people and no one is a winner in this case.
Tammy M says:
Actually Heather, you could hide behind your privilege. That is part of our privilege – never (or rarely) having to have these conversations unless we are compelled to. You are doing it because you “get it” and you won’t let yourself hide behind your privilege. Do you know any of your black friends who have not had to have regular conversations about race with their kids? I don’t. And I hate that.
SMH at this nonsense says:
However, I’m a teacher in DC, and I’ve felt that having open conversations with my students, black and white, has been really important. I think that’s where our problems lie: NOT talking with each other.
Tammy M says:
I agree with you 100% I think there are a lot of good people that don’t understand what others are going through.
Brooke says:
I work in a hospital and this morning I walked in to a patient’s room who was watching the events unfolding in Ferguson on the news.
As I was getting myself ready to draw her blood she said, “Do you know what they should do to those people in Ferguson?”
I said, “What’s that?”
She said, “Open fire. On all of them.”
I know I shouldn’t have but I said, “I don’t think that’s the right way to solve the problem. Violence begets violence. Things have to change for everyone. This is just one more situation where we ‘white people’ have to take a step back and reassess the situation and ask ourselves why we haven’t done enough in our role in society.”
She didn’t say much after that.
Denis Leary said, “Racism isn’t born, folks, it’s taught. I have a two year old son. You know what he hates? Naps. End of list.”
He’s so right. My 7 year old daughter’s 2 best friends are black and she sees nothing but her friends when she looks at them. Their skin color doesn’t mean a thing to her because we strive to teach her that it’s the quality of the people she surrounds herself with that will make the best relationships, not their color.
Katherine says:
You handled that very well, I think. How appalling that your patient would say such a thing!
Brooke says:
Thank you. I was taken aback, but then again I wasn’t. I live in rural Virginia. Not necessarily a progressive area, so I’m used to being the odd one out but it shouldn’t be that way.
Gandhi said, “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
Alexandra says:
I’m very disappointed in the comments I am seeing on this post. I’ve learned to expect this from people my own age (21) and younger, but if my assumptions are correct, the vast majority of people following this blog are adults…are PARENTS…who have sons and daughters Annie and James’s ages who are going to grow up being taught that if a black child is shot in the streets under circumstances that no white child ever would be then that means they deserved to die. Heather, you remain one of my favorite bloggers and people on the planet. Coming from the daughter of a police officer, your words are even more admirable. The rest of you…I hope for the sake of humanity that you learn to rectify your ignorance or refrain from associating with those who have.
Arnebya says:
Thank you for this. Your words are needed and appreciated. I’m sorry for some of the comments you’ve gotten.
Lucrecer says:
Thank you for writing this and sharing your words.
Kelly says:
Heather, I’ve been a longtime reader but never commented. Just wanted to say thank you for this post and using your privilege to further discussions on these topics. Thank you for standing up for justice. A hat-tip to you as well for not flying off the handle on some of these comments.
Denene @ MyBrownbaby says:
Dearest Heather,
Thank you, friend, for using your voice, your beautiful mind and your incredible space to say what needs to be shouted from the rooftops. Despite what the craziness of your comments section suggests, there are those of us out here who appreciate your words. Your empathy. That, love and activism, are the most beautiful and necessary things to share with our community, which is hurting, angry and exhausted. Mother to mother, woman to woman, human to human, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
Jen R. says:
Thank you so much for writing this, Heather. As a white woman who is heartbroken over this situation, and who would like to be a better white ally, AND as the mother of a black son, I appreciate you SO much. Thank you.
Kendra says:
You (not you specifically, Heather, but people in general) can second guess Darren Wilson’s actions all you want. He could have stayed in his vehicle, locked the doors and drove a safe distance away from Michael Brown and waited for backup. He could have not pursued Michael when Michael was fleeing. But if every cop backed away when they felt threatened, the thugs would be in charge.
The physical evidence presented to the grand jury corroborates Darren Wilson’s story. Michael wasn’t complying, he didn’t have his hands up, and he wasn’t shot in the back like the witnesses claimed. Michael Brown wasn’t just out and about minding his own business and targeted by Darren Wilson because he was black. He has walking down the middle of the street and interfering with traffic. Michael chose to escalate the situation rather than following the cop’s orders to get out of the middle of the street.
If this was any scenario other than a white cop shooting a black person, it would never have made the news. It’s great that folks want to make a change, but the Michael Brown incident shouldn’t be the poster child for why change needs to be made. Choose a real case of a white police officer targeting a black person simply because he/she was black. I don’t believe for one second that the Michael Brown incident was racially motivated.
Katherine says:
Another person to thank for making it clear that some people just continue to not get it.
Hint: I’m not talking about Heather.
There are countless examples of misbehaving white teens who miraculously did not get the instant death penalty for their actions.
Maybe you should start asking yourself why.
Oh, and if you think that black parents don’t have countless conversations with their kids about the importance of not getting into fights with cops, you need to get out more.
Kendra says:
@ Katherine
And by the same token, you don’t get it.
I have no idea why you’re bringing up “THE” conversation black parents have with their black sons (and I suppose their daughters, too), since I never mentioned that.
Did those “misbehaving white teens” attack a police officer?
Change needs to be made. The Michael Brown incident shouldn’t be the poster child for that change. He attacked a police officer. The physical evidence contradicts everything the witnesses claimed. The incident was not racially motivated. The grand jury got it right on this one. Alhough, it’s good that the incident has gotten people talking and wanting to make change.
Katherine says:
Ah, deflection. About what I would expect from somebody who wanders into this discussion and raises the same tired point that has been made repeatedly elsewhere. Do you think you’re speaking truth to power or something?
It’s not about one case. It’s about the broader pattern here. This case didn’t happen in a vacuum. And if you want to start talking about poster children, maybe you should apply the same level of scrutiny you want to apply to the dead victim in this case to the town he lived in and the very obvious racial inequality there which has been documented countless times elsewhere.
Kendra says:
Deflection? Where? I’m not arguing that change doesn’t need to be made. The only thing I’m saying is that the Michael Brown case wasn’t racially motivated. At the moment, it is “about this one case.” If it wasn’t, then why weren’t you all kicking and screaming about racial inequality on this site before this incident?
Katherine says:
You’re making a statement that contradicts what is known about Ferguson, without backing it up with any evidence.
And Darren WIlson’s testimony is rife with racial codespeak.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2014/1125/Darren-Wilson-testimony-raises-fresh-questions-about-racial-perceptions-video
And now you want to make this discussion about our motives for talking about this? I have to ask you what your motives are. Because you’re certainly not adding anything to the discussion.
Julia says:
Thought I would post this 20 year old article written by now Senator Cory Booker. Still heavily resonates today.
http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/26/7294655/rodney-king-ferguson-booker
Brooke says:
I’m late to comment on this, but I live in St. Louis and I felt similarly about wanting to say something and feeling awkward about knowing what to say. But you’re right–we can’t ignore the reality of white privilege and we can’t change it by remaining silent.
Deborah says:
Just another voice saying thank you for this eloquent and thoughtful post, and for using this platform to speak out on these important issues.
Lyla says:
I just don’t get it. What change do you want to see? Michael Brown robbed a store just before all this happened. He was asked to move out of the middle of the street. He did not comply, rather he got into a physical altercation with a police officer where he tried to take the weapon from the officer. Evidence proves that he was not running away from the officer when he was shot. He was not standing with his hands up when he was shot, rather, he was rushing towards the police officer. What change do you want to see? Where does “white privilege” take part in this. What are youi speaking up for? Yes, all lives matter. That is why the police officer was there in the first place, to protect the lives of the law abiding citizens! I read this post and thought about it for almost a week. I just don’t get it!
Katherine says:
Lyla said one true thing there. “I just don’t get it!”
(No, he wasn’t a perfect angel. But the police officer didn’t know there was a reported robbery, and there are many discrepancies with accounts of what happened – including the officer’s account.)
Seriously, take a seat, Lyla.
Lyla says:
The officer did in fact have a information about the robbery. The evidence does prove that Michael Brown did not have his hands up. My question is where does white privilege come into play? Because if Michael Brown was white he wouldn’t have been asked to step out of the middle of the road? He wouldn’t have been shot at for rushing the officer after attempting to take his gun? I disagree.
Katherine says:
He did not know.
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/15/ferguson-chief-officer-didnt-know-about-robbery/14124259/
White privilege is illustrated in the fact that you automatically believe the police officer’s version of events and ignore everybody else’s, including his BOSS. Who said that he did not, in fact, know that a robbery had been reported, and had only stopped Brown because he was walking in the street.
Katherine says:
Besides, if this was just an isolated incident, people would be shocked, but it would be recognized as a freak event. But it isn’t. Black people get stopped more often for things by the police than white people do. We know this; it’s been documented. Here’s an example. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/opinion/racial-discrimination-in-stop-and-frisk.html?_r=0
Thankfully, New York has finally ceased the practice. But until everybody “gets it”, we’re going to have a problem.
You are part of the problem.
Lyla says:
And in my opinion, you are part of the problem. You are not holding Michael Brown responsible for his actions. His death was not a result of the color of his skin, rather his choices and actions.
Katherine says:
He’s dead. How am I supposed to hold him responsible for anything?
If people commit crimes, they should be arrested and put on trial. However, in order to make that happen, they have to not be shot to death first.
In any case, your obsession with the details of this one particular case (which are still hotly disputed and don’t necessarily back your argument) is ignoring the context which has been discussed over and over here.
Katherine says:
This too.
http://www.uexpress.com/parents-talk-back/2014/9/29/black-moms-tell-white-moms-about/
Katherine says:
Maybe you read this. It’s possible it will help you get it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/11/06/i-taught-my-black-kids-that-their-elite-upbringing-would-protect-them-from-discrimination-i-was-wrong/
Laura says:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/04/alivewhileblack-hashtag-twitter_n_6271820.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000010
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/03/criming-while-white-hashtag_n_6265480.html