Last week I put up a silly little post with Annabel wearing different wigs. Many of you left comments asking about all the wigs, so I explained where they came from, and how I hope Annabel will love dressing up and using her imagination. In the comments, a reader left information for me about using the word Indian, and how wearing a costume like the one I posted a picture of was not politically correct. It was stuff I hadn’t thought of, especially when I was the 22-year-old version of me wearing it. I changed the word “Indian” to “Native American” immediately, because the last thing I ever want to do is offend.
Unfortunately, this reader thought I deleted her comment (I hadn’t), and instead of asking why her comment wasn’t showing up (not sure why, since I saw it), she left another, rather intense comment taking me to task for only looking at things from my perspective of “white middle class privilege.” To drive home her point, she said:
…if there was a blog where someone had posted pictures of premie (sic) babies making fun of their appearance, or the struggles of their families … maybe dressed up in a Halloween costume as a “premie” (sic) baby with wires, and tubes, bugged out eyes, torn skin and mocking (however innocently) the REALITY that you faced with your pregancies (sic) and daughters, you would say something, wouldn’t you? You would say “Hey that’s rude and hurtful to ME and my family.”
Now. This is where I got mad. It’s too bad she decided to go this route, because her points? Very valid. But assumptions…well, you know what they say about them. I am very aware that I have not personally experienced racial discrimination. People close to me have been the targets of hatred and bigotry. I have cried over things people have said about my twin brother and the rights he does not have. I am related to people who experience these things, just like this commenter, who is white but has daughters who are First Nations.
Dressing like a Native American when I was 22 was not to make fun of their appearance – in fact, I was trying to look hot for a guy (Mike). Was it an inappropriate costume? I see now that it was. I wouldn’t wear it again (even though, ironically, the wig is a Hippie Wig). But her example of a preemie costume is so over the line that you can’t even SEE the line anymore. I don’t think I have to go into how disgusting her description of premature babies is.
Later, the commenter replied to me with this:
…my point was to show that costuming one person’s tragic reality is just as wrong as appropriating a historical dress so disrespectfully and without even THINKING that its (sic) offensive to the person being portrayed.
…You are willing to demand that respect for premie (sic) babies and their families (which I HUGELY encourage and is TOTALLY right) but why is it wrong to point out when someone is mocking or making light of the history of MY child as well?
My child died because of prematurity. It is listed as a cause of her death. I have thousands of readers who have children that were born premature – and many of those readers’ children didn’t make it because they were born too soon. Prematurity – a killer medical condition – is NOT the same as race. And you’re damn right I’m looking at this from my perspective.
Also, can someone please tell me how race is a tragic reality? Really, truly, I want to understand this. I thought your race and heritage are things to be proud of, not things that are tragic. (Don’t get me wrong, I understand the injustices that many races have endured). Annabel will be raised with an interest in her own diverse heritage, and an understanding that no one is better than anyone else. That’s how I was raised, and that is what I believe.
I have great, amazing readers who sprang to my defense in the comments. Some went a bit too far, and I emailed them, as I do with MANY of my commenters on a daily basis. Someone suggested that I do a better job of moderating my comments, but here’s the thing – I don’t like to moderate comments. If I did, I wouldn’t have allowed her intense comment through to begin with and the whole hullabaloo could have been avoided. But I DID remove most of the links to her blog, because I didn’t want her to get flamed. Some people found her blog anyway, but it didn’t matter – she DOES moderate comments and does not post dissenting opinions. Her blog, her prerogative. That’s just not how I prefer to operate if it can be avoided.
I love when people are passionate about what they believe in, when they are respectful. What a truly amazing and interesting conversation we could have had in the comments! Perhaps we can have it today.
Sarah Marshall says:
Well said. I almost puked with how bad her description of a preemie was. Having birthed one a year ago, I was constantly hoping that people wouldn’t see my child as weird looking because his head was flat on both sides from being lain the wrong way in the incubator. I hoped that they wouldn’t call him out on the fact that his eyes are in a weird place on his face.
So it really grosses me out that while people don’t actually tell me that to my face (plus, my kid is undeniably cute), that they still believe it.
It’s preemie racism. That’s what that is.
Anyway, you did a very gracious job of addressing her concerns and calling her to task. I applaud your diplomacy. If only I could be so nice
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Michelle says:
Heather, I also have a preemie that was born at 30 weeks. I have been reading your blog for quite some time, but have never responded. However, I felt necessary after your recent post. That lady is a nut job (I’ll refrain from saying what I really want to say). You were in no way being culturally or racially insensitive. Her nefarious comments have invalidated any point she may have had.
When I look at pictures of your beautiful Maddie, my heart aches for your loss. I don’t even know you, but I cried tears of joy when I saw the first pictures you posted of Annie when she was born. I was so happy for your blessing after you’ve endured a world of pain.
Don’t apologize for what you wrote, if she doesn’t like what you write…she doesn’t have to read your page.
dysfunctional mom says:
To go where that commenter went is as low as you can go. Totally uncalled for.
Emily says:
Oh boy… bring on the comments! I read your post the night that this happened, and refreshed the page and followed along… I was disgustingly appalled at the things that some people have the nerve to say. Go Heather!
gnimaerd says:
I don’t think that that commenter meant ‘tragic reality’ to describe the ethnicities of her children so much as she meant it to describe the history and the very real discrimination they will STILL face as first nations people attached to their ethnicity.
That IS a tragic reality. Their race is something that should be celebrated – and yet it is likely to be a source of continuing hardship for them. Their ancestors were massacred so that the current America could be founded.
What’s obvious is that race is just an incredibly touchy issue for people, particularly when they feel that people’s white privilige is preventing them from hearing the concerns of people who are not white. (Dismissing the issue because, being white, we’ve never experienced what they’re talking about and so simply don’t believe that it’s ‘that big of a deal’). The fact that she jumped to a comparison that was so hurtful and so inappropriate is proof enough that she was caused genuine pain to see you in that costume and to feel that you weren’t hearing her her concerns. I have the same gut-wrenching emotional response when people are homophobic – because sometimes it just gets TIRING to live in a world where it seems as if the most visible depictions of who you are are mockeries put together by the same group of people (whether they be straight or white) who are largely responsible for your oppression in the first place.
I applaud you for handling this so honestly and respectfully, anyway. I hope your other commenters wont make the same mistake the original one did and jump to making inappropriate assumptions/comparisons that show their OWN ignorance and intolerance. =/
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Heather says:
See, and I thought she jumped to that comparison not because she was so hurt, but because she was so mad that she thought her comment was deleted.
And to be clear, in case I wasn’t – I was saying that I haven’t experienced racism MYSELF. I definitely wasn’t dismissing it. I was showing that I don’t have the personal experience that many do, at least in the way that is relevant to this topic.
Casey says:
“I don’t think that that commenter meant ‘tragic reality’ to describe the ethnicities of her children so much as she meant it to describe the history and the very real discrimination they will STILL face as first nations people attached to their ethnicity.”
I completely agree. I believe this was the commenter’s intention, but she did a very poor job of expressing that. I am German/Norwegian, married to a very proud Lakota Sioux man. We have two boys. I see a textbook case of historical trauma played out in my husband’s family. I am fully aware of the historical trauma in Native American history, and I see daily how that history has affected each generation, but quite frankly, neither my husband nor I are very accepting of the historical trauma speech or the race card. (And NO, a serious medical condition CANNOT be compared to race! For goodness sakes.)
I understand how the historical trauma of Native Americans could affect our children today if we allow it to. My boys will be discriminated against for being Native. But they will be discriminated against for being white also. I think it’s our responsibility to model for our boys that they can rise above the hatred and discrimination. I want them to be proud of ALL their heritage. I want them to understand what their Native grandmother went through in boarding school, just as I want them to understand what their Norwegian ancestors experienced at Ellis Island. I never want to see them play the race card.
For the record I don’t think dressing up in Native American braids was wrong at all. My little Lakota Sioux toddler loves to run around the house in a fringed cowboy jacket from the 1950s. He also loves to dress up as a Princess, a Firefighter and a witch. He plays dress up in Daddy’s and big brother’s old powwow regalia. If we had the Native braids he’d wear those too, and my mother-in-law, who suffered through unbelievable things at a boarding school, would laugh and love it!
Sorry I got so long winded.
jodi says:
Bravo! I can pretty much ditto this except replace Norwegian/German for Italian and my husband is Coeur D Alene.
Thank you for stating what I was feeling.
She was waaaaaaaaay out of line and in my opinion overly sensitive. What she wrote and the way she chose to word it was just plain gross.
Sareh says:
I’m Navajo and when I was 21 my boyfriend (now husband) and I dressed up like Pocahontas and John Smith (he’s a pretty spot on white guy ( ; ).
I’m not offended either. I did cringe when I saw “Indian” instead of “Native American”, but I hardly was offended.
Girlfriend is clearly very sensitive and she definitely stepped over the line.
Allison says:
I am way behind on this conversation but have been thinking about it for a while and wanted to put in my two cents… I think as a society we are becoming way too sensitive. My daughter is a preemie, she is adopted, she is biracial and she was a drug baby. Here’s how I hope to raise her – she is stronger than her early birth, she is adopted out of love, she is unique because of her race and she will overcome any challenges because of the drugs. She IS amazing! I don’t want her to think of these things as a tragic reality, they are her empowerment (is that even a word?!). These things don’t make her who she is, they are just part of who she is. She IS smart, funny, adventerous, courageous, beautiful and loving.
Harriet says:
It’s a real shame something fun about dressing a cute baby up can turn into something spitefull. In my oppinion as you changed the reference to Indian as soon as you were made aware that is surely the end of it. I might be wrong for saying it but it’s often PC gone mad. Perhaps today we could go back to the conversation on the post and go back to giggling about Annie without such animosity.
Karen says:
Irony: I AM first nations (mixed heritage) and I didn’t once think you were being disrespectful. The “native” / Tiger Lily Halloween costume is popular becase it’s iconic, graphic and femenine. Most don’t even think about it as being equivalent to black face. It’s absolutely NOT even remotely close to being akin to prematurity. Your readers response was simply inflamatiry and completely detached from what her intentions SHOULD have been. It’s wonderful that her children have a passioate advocate, but trying to educate and inform with that kind of grandstanding is beyond innappropriate.
Nichole says:
Well said.
I think that her point was lost by her cruelty.
Putting on a wig and dressing in a way that is intended to be cute (or at the very least NOT intended to be disrespectful) is not the same as her description of dressing as a premie.
UNREAL. And absolutely disgusting.
.-= Nichole´s last blog ..*~ Elliott =-.
Jen L. says:
Well said, Karen!
There is “making a point” and there’s “taking it too far.” Your commenter fell into the latter category. I can’t believe she went there. Kudos, Heather, for handling the situation with such grace. I’m so sorry someone said that to you.
.-= Jen L.´s last blog ..Sum Sum Summertime =-.
Jennystas says:
I couldn’t agree more. I’m a Greek American, and if you’ve ever met a Greek then you would know about the plight of our people, the oppression of our culture, etc… However, just because someone dresses in a toga for a party doesn’t mean I’m going to contact the Hellenic Cultural Association. This notion of “political correctness” is absurd. In fact, I find a sense of pride in people dressing like my ancient people. I went to highschool in Tulsa, Oklahoma where one of the best 6A football teams in the nation calls home, and we took much pride in being the “Union Redskins.” Oklahoma is, as I’m sure you know, the state with the largest Native American population, and many of my classmates were full-blood Choctaw, Pawnee, Creek, and Cherokee among others. We ALL took pride in the name redskin and wore the title with the admiration of many. Our biggest rivals were the Trojans and the Spartans… Ask me, as a Greek, if I ever took offense to this. If course not. Although obviously stereotyped and cliche, they too wore their names with pride. I hope the next time this lady goes to an Oktoberfest, sees a man in a sombrero, or is tempted to eat some not-so-authentic Chinese food, she is able to find noth only the hypocrisy in what she does, but the pure ridiculousness. Race and condition are not the same thing. My family is Greek, my granmother has lung cancer. Dress like a cliche Greek, fine… Dress like a cancer patient, and I will have your ass.
There really shouldn’t be any explanation of this. Heather, I’ve read your blog for over a year now and this is the first thing that has ever ellicited a comment… You did not deserve that reaction. I think we all know who’s correct….
Holla says:
I agree. I went to school in Catoosa Oklahoma and we were the Catoosa Indians. I am Native American and so were the majority of my classmates. No offense taken.
Simply Jenn says:
I’ve been trying to figure out what to add to this comment, but I think I’ll leave it at “Go Redskins!!!!” All 5 of my children attend this ever so awesome school!!
Grace says:
Greek Culture oppressed? Aren’t the texts by the Greek philosophers required reading? Didn’t Greeks establish democracy?
Let us all be ambassadors of our heritage and, as such, diplomatic in our conversations.
Jenystas says:
Listen, just because it’s not televised on CNN in the U.S. doesn’t mean it does not happen. We aren’t exactly Chechnya, but 400 years of Ottoman genocide warrents the title of oppression in my book. That’s why the Greeks are such a proud people… Even when they were literally being masacred for their faith, culture, and way of life, they still held onto their religion, language, and traditions. Even today, the Turks refuse to return the oldest Orthodox Church (Hagia Sophia in Constantinople, built by the Emperor Justinian) in te world back to it’s rightful owners. They not only refuse to turn back precious religious relics, but deface them. Just one of the many reasons why the Balkan states refuse Turkey’s entrance into the EU. Did you know that the reason why the parthenon is in such disrepair today is because the Turks stored gunpowder in it and blew it up when it was the only legal Orthodox Church in the city. There are still very high tensions between the nations and I would definitely consider this opression. I’m not saying that all Turks are evil (I’m not making hasty generalizations), but there is a sordid past and present that can’t be denied by either people. The Nazi party swept through Greece and literally raped and pillaged villages. Both my grandparents were kept in concentration camps just for being Orthodox Christians. You never hear of that in textsbooks though, do you? Even the British have been accused of aiding in the bastardization of Hellinism (The National British Museum of Art should be called the National British Museum of Stolen Art). Lord Byron was a true rebel to support the nationist cause. I mean, I had to read the Dalai Lama in high-school, but that doesn’t mean that Tibet isn’t oppressed by the People’s Republic of China. Like I said before, the Greeks are only respected today because we they have fought just like many nations that face adversity. I completely understand what you are thinking, but I’m just trying to tell you that perception and reality are very different in this case.
Terri says:
Hmmm.. okay. I’M TURK, as well as my daughter and husband soooo.. can I just say there’s 2 sides to every story and I’m not going to get into a spitting contest with you but I think there’s a HUGE difference in an innocent costume and going on and on about how a country/culture was oppressive and cruel.The Turks are proud people too, and no not at all evil. Evil is in the person, not the culture, religion, etc. There was alot of murdering/massacring on the Greek side also but this isn’t the place of that. I think many times people are looking for ways to be offended and need to grow a MUCH thicker skin. The comments about preemies were very uncalled for, and the commenter should have realized that was the WRONG place to go… I also have a Native American friend whose Grandson runs around in a beaded jacket with a warwhoop, and isn’t the least bit offended, in fact she bought it for him!
Terri says:
I should add there is a huge difference between making a comment accidentally that you didn’t know would offend someone, and attacking a persons culture, religion, appearance, etc. War is ugly on BOTH sides.. and every situation has 2 sides. And Aya Sophia is NOT being defaced.. Have you ever been there? I have and the Turks are not defacing anything. It’s still a church, and they have been doing renovations to keep it in good condition for everyone to enjoy. How can they give back a church? And why should they? It’s on their land.There are many many churches all over Turkey, some in the middle of nowhere and they aren’t being destroyed or defaced. Christians during the crusades were just plain evil, they were nothing like Jesus. War is horrible and hateful for everyone involved. And there are lots of reasons Turkey is not in the EU right now and MANY Turks do not WANT to be in the EU.
Mary says:
You go girl!
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melissa says:
I totally have to agree with u here that commenter showed her mean spirits i understood her point but to even compare that to preemie babies is just wrong.
btw Jennystas Dress like a cancer patient, and I will have your ass. So right on my grandfather died of lung cancer thats exactly the same way i would have to put it!
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Lynn from For Love or Funny says:
I’ll be back later to read more of the comments on this post; should be interesting!
.-= Lynn from For Love or Funny´s last blog ..I fell in love with his sweatpants… =-.
mary c says:
I agree!!
Anna says:
You are an amazing woman. You handled that with such grace and dignity. I read your blog everyday. I am a huge fan.
cj says:
i agree completely. i am so always impressed with the way that you take on the tough subjects and handle them beautifully.
Sarah says:
Ditto this, and CJ’s reply.
I’ve got a headache and don’t really want to get into the issue (I made my feelings known in the original comments), but I do want to send much love and ’nuff respect to Heather.
.-= Sarah´s last blog ..My current desktop background: =-.
Stephanie says:
Hi Heather,
I have been following your blog for over a year now and love to read all your stories and adventures. I too have Native American relatives and have been politically incorrect many times by saying “indian”. I get that that particular reader saw the word “indian” and wanted to make a point to correct you but to go further with the second email was just disgusting and people like her are LOOKING for reasons to insult other people when they are down. You did not have the intention to hurt her feelings while it is obvious she knew that her comments about preemies was going to hurt you terribly and for that I am sorry you had to read her comment. I want you to know that every picture of Maddie that you posted, even when she was born preemature, she looked so cute and beautiful. I love reading your blog and really appreciate all the stories, adventures and informative info you share with us on a daily basis. Thanks.
Karen says:
So, if I understand this commenter properly…
If I, as a white woman of North European descent, dress up as a Spanish Flamenco dancer, that is racist? Not that it’s a ‘tip of the hat’ at a beautiful dance and traditional dress. Or if I dress in a sari, or a belly dancers outfit or a hula skirt?
Hhhhmmmm.
Not quite sure I agree with her on this.
However being a white woman of North European descent, I dont know much about racism. Apart from of course when I’m abused for being white (yes it does happen honest).
I do know however about being abused and ridiculed for being a woman (I work in the construction industry). I’ve heard all the jokes, suffer all the put down and humiliation.
Bothered me a little when I was 16, now I’m 40 I’m very comfortable with being a woman.
Throw abuse at me, it’s your little mind and it wont affect my big world. Surely it’s often the same for people of other racial origins.
Karen says:
Do you know I actually had to go back and look at your post about Kyle. Why? Cos although I had read it, and read that he is gay, it didnt flag in my memory.
I dont remember people in terms of their sexual preferences, I remember them on the important stuff.
He’s your brother, he’s your twin, he’s as beautiful as you, he writes, he loves you and your kids, you and he had a wonderful childhood together.
Probably still wont go in even now!
Kate says:
“sexual preferences”? this implies a choice.
while we’re having this discussion about pc terms and semantics, I should bring up that “sexual preference” is pretty offensive. when did you choose to be straight?
for future reference: sexual orientation is a much less inflammatory term.
Marsha says:
In trying to navigate sensitive issues that are important to us, we tend to offend others and even our own communities. It’s hard to see the bigger issues, but they are being addressed here and honestly and, most importantly, calmly so that people can continue to listen and talk.
I do think race is a tragic reality, as tragic as death linked to prematurity. Lynching was tragic and that’s just an extreme example of what still happens today at a huge scale.
While I am sure there are social economic realities to deaths among premature babies (and Mike and Heather address it actively through their work), the socio economic and political context to race is even deeper and more ingrained and changing that tragic reality seems way harder. While I get the issue with the wig, and while sensitivity to that issue is a big start, it won’t change the larger socio economic reality of race.
Tam. says:
Gosh. I just thought the pictures were really cute. In this day and age it seems people have a tendency to “overthink” things.
Hope says:
I agree! : )
Jenny says:
I agree too! I would not want anyone judging 33 year old me based on what 20 something me wore for Halloween trying to look hot.
And it certainly should not have been an invitation to “open fire” on a horrific medical condition that rips out your heart every day.
I’m sorry that people are hurting so much, they can only express that hurt by hurting others. Heather, you handled this with kindness and grace like you always seem to muster up the classiness to do, and as usual you are just so real about it.
Much love to you.
.-= Jenny´s last blog ..Out of balance…run-on sentence =-.
Cat says:
Yes and no. I don’t think ‘over thinking’ and ‘overreacting’ are the same things. Absolutely the comments we’re all talking about were totally inappropriate, and spiteful when it became apparent that people weren’t agreeing. I am in no way agreeing with her approach or condoning her behaviour (also Heather, this is not a comment on your choice of costume!). I do think it is 100% NECESSARY to ‘over think’ things sometimes is all.
I’m white and from an upper-middle class background, but I’m also gay. You can’t fly off the handle every time someone makes a comment that isn’t 100% PC but it gets so wearing and SO tiring to hear things described as ‘gay’ constantly or gay jokes in the media, no matter how innocently they are meant. Most people don’t even realise they do it, its not overt, intentional homophobia, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t hurt people. The young kids at my work might not mean that being gay is bad when they use the term gay to describe something lame or stupid, but that doesn’t mean that its not the way a gay person hears it. I imagine its the same for people of any minority or any group that is on the receiving end of prejudice.
So that is why I think we NEED to over think things, if no one ever ‘over thought’ we’d still be in a much less equal world than we are now. Its about putting yourself in someone else’s shoes first, trying to have a little empathy. Blowing up at people on the internet it one thing, questioning whether our actions and words might hurt someone before we put it out there and owning it when when we don’t is something else. I think Heather did absolutely the right thing; she might have inadvertently used a term that some find offensive, but as soon as it came up, she apologised and changed it.
By the same token, I think that’s where Jensboys went so SO wrong. She turned around and did EXACTLY what she was accusing Heather of, to the power of ten. Tolerance and empathy HAS to be a two way street. She might have been trying to illustrate a point but she didn’t ever seem to think about how her comment might affect others. Her feelings might have been valid but they were totally lost as soon as she started offending people too.
I think its kind of dangerous to write off someone’s hurt feelings as ‘just over thinking’ because we don’t share them, or racism and intolerance aren’t going anywhere.
Savannah says:
Very nicely stated.
Beth says:
Let me start out by saying the Native Americans I’ve seen interviewed don’t really care what you call them. American Indian, Native American, whatever, they just want to be American or their tribe.
I DO NOT agree with this commenter tactics. It’s almost as if his/her only defense is “REMEMBER?! YOUR BABY DIED! Native Americans DIED! You see the injustice here?!”
The Native Americans have a LONG history of being screwed over by the American government and the American people in general. I’ll give an EXTREMELY brief and unprofessional-sounding rundown. When Europeans came, they basically pushed the existing tribes out of the Northeast and into the then-Northwest (which is like Ohio and Illinois) and south, killed them, or learned to put them in a special place where no one would bother anyone. There are a bunch of the court cases and treaties from the late, late 1700s and the early 1800s involving the tribes in the South and Southeast that usually found in the Native American’s favor, but the government ignored them and this all led to the Trail of Tears. Then there are a lot of wars in the mid-1800s between the original Plains tribes and the effects that white encroachment had, all ending at Wounded Knee (the first one). Then, in like the 20s, the American government made all Native Americans that were members of tribes, American citizens. Then in like 1968, the government dissolved some tribes and tried to get them to assimilate into American society. But that didn’t work, so they were basically alone in American society without their heritage or tribe to help them and, without a tribe, they can’t get government assistance. So, like I said, they’ve been screwed by us forever.
But I don’t see how wearing a wig is disrespecting their heritage. If anything, when you see it, you are reminded of their position in America. Native American reservations are some of the poorest places in America, where not only is their heritage struggling to survive, but the people themselves are severely unhealthy. And it’s all because the American government neglects them. I’m certainly reminded of their history whenever I see someone dressed in that manner. I don’t think they intend to make a mockery of Native Americans and their struggles.
From what I can tell, Heather was NOT trying to offend anyone. HOWEVER, when this commenter brought Maddie into this, she/he WAS trying to offend. You do NOT do that to a mother who has struggled from day 1 to keep a child alive. Even before Maddie was born, Heather and Mike struggled. When Maddie was alive, they struggled. Even after Maddie died, they still tried to fight, and they are fighting now.
Was this commenter personally hurt by someone judging them for being Native American? Just how Native American are we talking, because I can claim Native American heritage, but I’m still only 1/16th. I’m outraged that Native Americans were treated badly, but guess what, lots of people get treated badly. Women have been treated badly, Chinese have been treated badly, Japanese have been treated badly, Germans have been treated badly, the handicapped have been treated badly, Middle Easterners have been treated badly, blacks have been treated badly, LBGT have been treated badly, old people have been treated badly, Jews have been treated badly, and poor people and the homeless have been treated badly; at every point in US or world history, one group has been singled out and persecuted. Yes, there are a few similarities, but you are trying to compare two completely separate incidences. Something that happened AT LEAST 50 YEARS AGO to a group of people in a certain area that you have no personal attachment to is a TOTALLY different situation than talking about how her daughter struggled. I could understand some of the outrage if this strikes a personal chord for you, but unless you or an immediate relative has been singled out because of race, and that race is Native American, you just sound like another troll. Bringing Maddie into this made it seem that you had nothing with which to back yourself up other than blurting out “YOUR DAUGHTER DIED!!!”
Sorry if that was long and rambling and didn’t make sense, but I just didn’t think that was right; I felt compelled to put in my two cents. I wouldn’t be able to fall asleep unless I got that off my chest.
That person better sit at home and hug their child(ren) tight today, and thank their god they are there.
Beth says:
Oh, and I want to apologize ahead of time to anyone other than the offending commenter if I’ve offended them. I have a habit, ironically, of not thinking EVERYTHING through before I speak it. Even if the commenter is Native American and genuinely outraged that someone dressed up as a Native American, and that somehow constitutes an offense against Native Americans past or present, they still used some fallacy of argument that I can’t remember by bringing Maddie into this, and it doesn’t make their argument any more valid or invalid; it just makes them seem like a bad person.
Megan says:
Yes, totally, exactly. We all need to move on people! Cant’ we all just be Americans? My kids are of Cherokee descent, their grandma is Cherokee. Dad is half, they are 1/4. We unfortunately don’t know a whole lot about the tribe or family history, as Grandma was raised in Tennessee in a little town, with white people. She married a white man and lived a ‘white’ life. She just wants to be an American, as her parents wanted to just be Americans.
But, we are also Irish, and Catholic, and on my side, there was a black person about three generations ago. Maybe I should sit around being mad about everything that ever happened to all these people. Or, I can decide to be good, and kind and thoughtful to the people around me. Just like everyone should be. Gosh, we just need to get over this race thing. I live in a town where many people happen to adopt. They adopt lots of kids of all races. No one thinks of their children as “oh, their black son Joe, or the Chinese girl Leslie” they are just Joe and Leslie.
Smoochagator says:
Eek. On the one hand, I see this person’s point, and I understand why she made the comparisons she did between race and prematurity. I often try to find parallels between my opinion/viewpoint and another person’s experience to help them see where I’m coming from. But on the other hand, this particular circumstance would be an example of how that tactic can backfire in a painfully ugly way.
I have to commend you for being such a class act that you tried to prevent your other readers from finding this person’s blog and flaming her. Good on you for attempting to keep the drama quotient low.
defendUSA says:
This is silly, really. Heather, you were 22 and wearing a costume for fun. It was never your intent to hurt people and if someone was offended, it was their problem.
Secondly, this person’s comment was just freaking out there. A person can only be offended if they let themselves be offended. *You* were playing dress-up with your baby and having fun. It had nothing to do with anyone else’s predicaments that arise at birth, least of all a premature one.
And anyone who did what that person described would have to be one sick puppy.
As for the race issue…Huh? I see nothing racial about anything in that post. It is in the eye of the commenter.
And for the record, we are the world’s melting pot. I am dead sure that if we consider all things, racism happens more among like populations as opposed to opposite ones. My exposure to this was most frequent in the military. And I don’t have any problems at all with the issue. It is what it is and some use this word as a tool to unite or divide.
My mother taught me that as long as people treat you well and with respect that nothing else matters.
Alexandria says:
I agree, my daughter is dark skinned and not native american. I dressed her up as pokahontas. Boy what was i thinking walking with her like that? I didnt put a sign on her that said pokahontas.
Tiffany Day says:
I totally and 100% agree with your comment and particularly this part
“This is silly, really. Heather, you were 22 and wearing a costume for fun. It was never your intent to hurt people and if someone was offended, it was their problem.
Secondly, this person’s comment was just freaking out there. A person can only be offended if they let themselves be offended. *You* were playing dress-up with your baby and having fun. It had nothing to do with anyone else’s predicaments that arise at birth, least of all a premature one.”
Anyone – anyone who had read Heather’s blog for any amount of time should know she is not a cruel thoughtless person.
Why is it so hard to give peopel the benefit of the doubt and not over think things! I was not offeneded in the slightest!
You are amazing Heather. I am long time reader and rarely comment. I always send a prayer your way when I read your posts. I appreciate your honesty and I appreciated the post where you gave tips on how to help a person who is grieving – it helped me help a friend.
Bless your heart!
xoTiffany
Erin says:
I totally agree with you – she did have some valid points as to how it could have been construed as offensive…and I can understand how on one level how someone was offended…but she took it way too far and lost her temper and ruined what could have been her chance to address an issue which is obviously so near and dear to her heart.
I think that we can all learn a lesson from this and learn to respond not in anger and pull out our weapons to hurt and maim each other right away – and instead be here to support each other, which is why I love blogging communities in the first place. Who said that the pen was mightier then the sword? I don’t think they ever experienced a pen who felt so angry..
First nations have suffered a lot – and I get that. This does not mean that anyone else in the world has not suffered also – although it can never be the same or even understood by ‘outsiders’ it does not mean that we don’t all carry around SOME sort of baggage. I believe that knowledge is power, so I applaud you for giving a forum for whoever wants to say what they have/want/need to say here.
To be honest, reading your blog has given me such an amazing, sad, horrifying and uplifting view into what it can be like to be a parent, a mother, a wife and so many other things that you are. The ups and downs and all of the things that you’ve experience in your own unique battle – that’s why I read blogs. I love new opinions and ideas and finding out things about people and learning so that I can understand a small fraction of the world and thus learn to be a more caring and empathetic person. In all honesty – it would have been very interesting to read her blog, but after her lashing out and saying the hurtful things that she said…even though the link was still there…I couldn’t bring myself to look at her blog because two wrongs don’t make a right – and although the topic interests me…the hurt and saddness I felt (which I can only imagine is a thousandth, a millionth, of what you felt) was too great to even contemplate seeing her words anymore.
I want to learn more, and I’m excited (because I’m a huge nerd) to read more on these issues, to talk to people (I live a mere five minutes from a reserve) and discuss this issue – and I look forward to reading the comments that will follow – thanks for being so ‘grownup’ about this whole thing
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britt says:
now that was just foul.
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Dolphinmomcca says:
I dont think you should have to justify yourself at all, if anything that poster that got all offended made a “butt” of herself…..she is making you feel bad about a funny post, which in reality she is saying SHES not comfortable with her own identity enough to not take offense to something that wasnt offensive to begin with.
I dont see how preemies have ANYTHING to do with a wig, and I found her comment to be 1000X worse than a funny post you wrote, and as far as politacally correct names?? phooey……just like most African Americans would choose to be called “black” over the “N” word, Im sure someone of Native American decent would rather be called an “Indian” (which I dont find derogatory at all) than something worse, although “Native American” may be more politcally correct.
This boils my butt…….keep your head up, and keep being funny, sometimes this blog is the only time I laugh all day, and I love it!!!
hawkfeather says:
I hope it is clear that even as a new reader- I love you and your stories brings me happiness..
But I would like to throw in my perspective- because you asked- and because i really do tend to think of you as a person who honestly wants to hear the perspectives of others-
You asked how race can be a tragic reality?
And while I didn’t read the comments or her blog or even know who this person is- or ‘agree’ with how she dealt with this situation (or her words) i have my own opinion on the question you posed.
First nations culture has been made a mockery of in North America to a degree that has virtually created a new culture- the new culture being our *idea* of what it means to be Native.
I do not think the race *is* the tragic reality I think the interpretation represents a tragic reality- and of course *you* Heather did not create this interpretation. A lot of people would be open to hearing this perspective- learning from it, but I don’t think this exchange did much educating.
I am not of First Nations heritage and every person no matter what race or culture will have their own opinion- in fact even the choice in what one call’s their race will vary.
I was saddened to read the manner in which a preemie was described- and I can understand that making something ugly in mockery or costuming can be seen as different than the basic thought- of a “pretty Native costume” being to someone- almost a compliment in their mind’s eye..
I can also understand if someone argues there may be more to it underlying… I just think lashing out takes a point that can be valid and makes it angry and hurtful and the point is than lost.
I wanted to share a personal story but perhaps this isn’t the venue for that.
I ‘can’ say that I can not touch upon what loosing a premature child *is* what it does to a family- to a heart…
But I also do know first hand how the lives of Native children are limited where I live, i think of the vast areas in the U.S where Native families do not even have running water…
I do very much think race can affect not only the quality of life- but the length as well.
I am blessed to have some wonderful – beautiful Native children in my life- and I see their potential- and I think of the limitations- the hardships they will face.. what they need to overcome just to make it on a basic level and it breaks my heart.
I do not think discussing race or language is over the top PC on any level-
as well- I read things like some of the above comments- comparing the situation to wearing a hula skirt or a sari- and I think maybe I do understand why people get *so* upset..
I just want to remind readers that it isn’t wearing of a traditional First Nations Costume that was the issue- it is the icon- a virtual parody of the “Indian” ideal.
The model here is a version of a race that *only* exists in the perceptions another race has of Native people.
People can only be ignorant of a matter that hurts or offends others until they have another view shared with them…and than they have a choice to make.
I think assuming anyone had ill will or negative intentions is a sad way to see things..I do not think anyone can read Heather’s blog here and think she is anything *but* an open minded educated woman.
hawkfeather says:
4:23 am.. forgive my grammar and typing.. geesh.
Amy says:
As a person of aboriginal descent *and* the mother of a once-premature infant, I see several sides of this issue.
I don’t actually think the analogy between dressing up as an Aboriginal person and costuming yourself or your child as a preemie was entirely out of line, even if your commenter expressed it angrily.
The valid part of her analogy was that it is a problem when Aboriginal people are represented in only one way — as traditional, teepee-dwelling, long-haired, tomahawk-wielding and/or drunk spectacles. Some variation of this description is how many Aboriginal people are seen. This stereotype has contributed to the continuing discrimination that many Aboriginals experience, even though in reality Aboriginals vary as widely as any other racialized group.
A similar circumstance exists for premature babies — and even more so for children with disabilities. To be seen as something ugly, or deformed, or too sickly to live and therefore not deserving of real care.
I would not personally experience grief or anger to see someone dressed up as either an Aboriginal or a premature infant (well, seeing a preemie always gives me flashbacks), but I can understand someone who might respond badly to either costume.
Heather and others have already addressed the issue of historical traumas and contemporary discrimination experienced by Aboriginals, so I won’t add to this part of the discussion.
I wish Heather’s angry commenter had written to her privately rather than on the blog itself. At the same time, a meaningful discussion *has* ensued about racialization, and this must be of some value. I am sorry, though, that Heather has experienced pain: on this level I think her commenter was quite insensitive.
Another Heather says:
I think your point about representing Aboriginal people in only one way is dead on. A concern that arose for me while reading The Commenter is that she came across as stereotyping her own daughters. If she is a white mother with Native American daughters, as Heather says in today’s post, to what extent is her framing their heritage as a “tragic reality” going to keep them in that particular victim box? Because in truth, while history affects all of us, our reality is now.
I hope that on a day-to-day basis, this mother views her girls as the individuals that they are, rather than focusing only on stereotypes and regularly lashing out at others to defend them from slights that they might never otherwise feel.
Johanna says:
Yeah okay, middle class white person here, so I cant pooooosibly understand anything about racism I spose but people need to get over themselves…truly. Stop taking yourself so seriously. Call me insensitive but stop talking about the past. You wanna talk about how you are being discriminated against right now? Thats a conversation we can have but getting angry about what my great great grandfather did to your great great grandfather is pointless because they are long gone.
And let me just say, that woman has clearly never had contact with a premature baby. My brother was born at 26 weeks and my nephew at 25 – and yes in hindsight the rest of their bodies had a little bit of growing to do to catch up with the size of their eyes and heads but…the fragility of that miniature perfection is so breathtakingly beautiful that it couldn’t possibly matter less.
That person should be thoroughly ashamed of herself.
Denise says:
So true, get over it. I get tired of people using things as a crutch, try to overcome it, tha is the only thing you can do. Remember no one will ever take you seriuosly or get yoru point with anger. I am sorry about anything bad that happend to any race, or of a sexual or religious nature, etc. but I didn’t do it. Currently being a woman is more of an issue for me.
MB says:
“but I didn’t do it.”
Every time you respond to a point (however clumsy or offensive it may seem to you) about oppression or cultural insensitivity with “get over it. I get tired of people using things as a crutch,” yeah, you are doing it. Attitudes like yours are part of what perpetuate the oppressions “that happend(sic) to any race, or of a sexual or religious nature, etc.”
Amy says:
[Just to add to my previous comment] As for the question of whether to dress up in someone else’s cultural costume, it’s my belief that it’s really important to be cautious about this.
If the costume connects in any way to dominant, negative stereotypes about a culture, especially those which have been used as the basis for ridicule or discrimination, it’s probably best not to dress up unless you are a member of that culture.
The most hurtful examples would be white people putting on ‘blackface,’ or a Christian dressing up as a hook-nosed Hassidic Jew, or dressing up as a stereotypical ‘Indian,’ or a citizen pretending to be a Mexican ‘wetback.’
It’s not about political correctness to avoid costumes that cause pain. It’s empathy and cultural consideration.
But at the same time, if someone dresses up (or puts their kid) in an inappropriate costume, rather than shouting at them, it might be more effective to explain why it bothers you in an effort to contribute to cultural understanding.
P.S. Thank you, Heather, for being so open about this controversy.
Johanna says:
Its also different from country to country. Here in Australia on a variety show some people did a skit on the jackson 5 with 4 white guys having their faces painted black and one black guy with his face painted white. There was a big uproar about it from americans but……’blackface’….i had never heard of it before because it was never something used in my country….it has no history of racism attached to it here so australians didnt think twice about it.
Katherine says:
This was a great way to explain things without being hurtful. Thank you.
Sidnie says:
The whole situation could have been so different.
The commenter could have chosen her words more carefully and been more respectful in stating that she was offended. But no, she took it too far. She crossed a very bold line.
Heather, you take everything that’s thrown at you with confidence and grace.
I’m not sure I agree that the costume was offensive. I think it’s important to remember our history- whether it’s yours or mine or theirs…
It’s really ours, as a whole.
If an Indian/Native American/First Nations costume is offensive, then is a Cowboy also offensive?
hawkfeather says:
Johanna- I am honestly curious if you would have the same view if you were addressing a person who’s family were killed during the Holocaust?
…and Sidnie- A Native person is a Race and Heritage- a cowboy is a job.
Johanna says:
Obviously its all case by case isn’t it? My only point was I’ve never been racist, I’ve never discriminated against anyone, don’t be angry at me for something some distant ancestor of mine may or may not have done.
hawkfeather says:
I am sorry, but I am not sure how it is ‘obvious’ that it is case by case? if that means “race by race” or just situation by situation..
if the suggestion is that some races have more right to mourn for their past because of the violence they were subjected to- I am hoping people can recall how very violent the history we are speaking of really was.
I think it is totally valid to want to face issues of current days- and for people to be accountable for how they behave- the things they say in the now-
But I can not say I agree that it is anyone’s place to decide what significance their ancestry *should* have…
Asides from which- I am not sure how this ever was an issue about only the past- as far as I can see people seem very engrossed in their stereotypes of Native culture right here and now.
Johanna says:
I cannot really comment on specifics of your current attitudes to native culture as i am from another country with its own native culture, people and history. I am not telling anyone how significant their ancestry should be to them, I am protesting the fact that I should be blamed and held accountable for things that happened over 100 years before I was born.
hawkfeather says:
My point is the same no matter where you come from-
You say you are protesting being blamed for something- but what you seem to be addressing is a conversation where a woman questioned Native stereotyping.
I do not think that has anything to do with blaming anyone for anything that happened 100 years ago.
If you do not wish to tell anyone how significant their ancestry should be to them- maybe there could be some recognition that describing how a heritage has been lost- or how it is caught up in stereotypes is one person discussing what they personally find “significant” about their own history and culture.
I have heard the exact sentiment you used before- “getting angry about what my great great grandfather did to your great great grandfather is pointless”…
It might be pointless to you- but generally speaking- I think there is room for people of a culture that has been so severely abused to mourn that without people deciding it is about *them*.
I still think this whole thing is fairly current anyways.
Amy says:
Love and admire Heather. I’m a middle-class white girl.
But I totally agree with hawkfeather. Well said.
Heather, I wanted to reach out and protect you as soon as I saw that post with the wig, because I knew what was coming your way. I knew that if *I* was cringing, there were going to be some really hurt people out there.
Johanna, it isn’t a matter of blaming people for what their ancestors did, it’s a matter of wanting people to remain extremely sensitive to the horrific injustice, abuse, murder, deprivation, and theft that these cultures and races have endured. No one’s blaming YOU, but from a place of privilege, you do need to walk with sensitivity. That’s where I think the preemie analogy holds: no one should tell anyone to get over the death of their child, or the genocide of their grandparents, or the annhilation of your culture. Your grief is your own, and we should all be respectful.
Nichole says:
WOW. Just, wow.
I really doubt that my comments will add a whole lot to this discussion…but here it goes.
I went to a university whose mascott was the Chippewa. There were many people from the Chippewa tribe who were highly involved with our university, who hosted events on campus, and who helped to ensure that their culture was respectfully represented.
Within the last 20 or so years, there was a HUGE movement (which, ironically was not initiated by the tribe) to fight the discrimination that was “surely” happening. What resulted was that the university ultimately changed the mascott to the “chips”.
My parents had gone to the same university, and I remember there being a great amount of Chippewa culture on campus growing up. We would go to pow-wows on campus, take field trips (in Kindergarten) to the university cultural center to learn about the tribe, Ojibwe was offerred in the foreign language deparment.
Now? When the university lost their namesake, a lot of identification with the tribe was lost as well. Now, student’s on campus affiliate the Chippewa more with the casino and less with the university. The pow-wow’s are off campus, you can no longer find Chippewa jewelry at the campus book store, the cultural center no longer hosts events to the degree they did (and tours are given by 18yo college kids, rather than elders from the tribe), etc.
The consensus (as reported by news stories and interviews…etc) was that the tribe OBVIOUSLY could handle their own affairs, and that they were highly involved and helped to ensure that they were being represented respectfully. A lot of the elder tribe members seemed to be pretty pissed about the mascott being changed, and affiliations between the university and the tribe severed. Interestingly enough, the movement to be rid of the mascott name was started by very white, very middle class “progressive” people.
I’m not saying that there isn’t discrimination, or that some people may find any sort of nod towards their culture disrespectful (which, Heather…I don’t think that was your intent). What I don’t like is when people grandstand and ASSUME that they are fighting the good fight for the downtrodden. Because, in the case I talked about, what resulted was a LACK of diversity, a LACK of education, and a LACK of respect.
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Anna says:
Very well said Nichole. It always makes me a little sad and a little angry when people make schools/teams/whatever change their mascots because it “might” offend someone.
Nichole says:
I certainly think that if a tribe is pushing to have their name removed from a team, that it is well within their rights.
What makes me angry about this, however, is that the drive behind the name change had nothing to do with the tribe and resulted in significantly diminishing the relationship that had been there. What resulted from that was an increase in segregation and diminishing the education about the Chippewa culture.
Any time you take education out of the mix you basically discard your greatest weapon and create an environment primed for prejudice and promoting stereotypes.
Hope says:
Yeah, I don’t understand why she would think her childrens’ race is a “tragic reality”. A tragic reality is what you and Mike went through when you lost precious Maddie. I’m not trying to be rude, but it sounds to me like she was looking for attention. I love your blog, and anyone who takes offense to a Halloween costume needs to lighten up. I have a small part of my background that is Native American, and was not offended by it at all. This is YOUR blog, so of course you are talking about things from your perspective. That’s why you have a place to leave comments so other people can join in with theirs. It is a free country and I understand she has a right to say what she wants, but there is also a thing called respect. She forgot all about it when she left that comment. Keep up the great writing!
Linda Campbell says:
I just don’t get it. It’s YOUR blog, if this woman (and I use that term loosely) doesn’t like what she sees or reads, move on, don’t look, don’t read.
You were dressing up as an Indian, so what? I’m sure this person and her family dress as Indians all the time, you’re an American, why can’t you dress in your country’s native clothing?
Dressing as a preemie? How could she be so cruel? I can’t even find the words!!
Some people really need to find some REAL things to worry about!!!
Lauren says:
You know what I’ve learned? If you look hard enough, you can find something that offends you anywhere. That seems to be the case here and it’s completely ridiculous. I believe the commenter has bigger fish to fry when it comes to being worried about political incorrectness. Instead of finding fault with an innocent picture, perhaps she should take on Major League Baseball for the Atlanta Braves. Take a look at the mascot. How about the tomahawks the fans purchase? Listen to what they chant in unison when the team is doing well. THAT is what I call offensive.
Jessy says:
When I first read the commentator’s comment I was appalled. As I think about it more and more and try to view it through a lens of compassion, I can see what point she was trying to make, however crudely it was done.
Her description of preemies was disgusting. But that is kind of the point – that when we try to capture any “group,” be it Native Americans, Black Americans, preemies, or others, we often resort to stereotype and caricature. And – to a depressing extent – memberships in those groups carries with them health risks, above and beyond the obvious (access to healthcare, nutrition, lifestyle, socioeconomic status, etc.). Simply being a member of a stigmatized group brings with it added anxiety about being the target of stereotypes, which in turn leads to higher blood pressure, etc. etc. And of course, historically (and still today) being non-White could be a more direct cause of violent death.
Is race a tragic reality or something to be proud of? Well, for different people it can be one or the other (or both). Something one is proud of, and which ties one to a rich heritage, but which brings pain and risk. I think of people I know who were preemies and they are proud of what they have overcome – health issues, learning disabilities, etc – that was tied to their prematurity. But, at the same time, they would rather not have had the struggle. Race, sexual orientation, any group that brings with it that cohesion as well as the risk of bring the target or prejudice, probably carries this double-edged sword.
I wish the commenter had not jumped to conclusions about your motives or your moderation. I wish she had framed her words with more compassion. But her reality is that she was offended, and you get that, and she used an unfortunately inflammatory analogy to try to make her point, and did it in a particularly insensitive way. If a former preemie came to post and said “Hey, I think it would be kind of funny if someone dressed up as a preemie like she described” it wouldn’t negate your feelings (or those of the many commentors). Similarly, the people who posting who say THEY weren’t offended doesn’t negate her feelings.
She clearly didn’t give you the benefit of the doubt (which I think you have more than earned). In giving her the benefit of the doubt, I think I understand where she is coming from better. Good on you for opening this up for discussion after the first rush of emotions.
Erin says:
Well said.
Caricatures are often what we see of many heritages/races; and this is a big problem. I am the parent of two mixed race daughters and finding them dolls that could serve as “models” in which to see themselves without the caricature has proved to be difficult. Their heritage and their race — even though it is not my own — is something I very much hope they take great pride in. But I know that they will encounter difficulty — as we all do in this life.
But tragic reality? No, I don’t think I will ever see it that way.
What gets me the most about this commenter is that i read all of the comments the other day, was very interested in her points and went to her blog to read a bit about her perspective. I was appalled to find, however, that she took Heather to task for supposedly deleting her comment and then stated on her own blog that she wouldn’t consider posting any comments that didn’t completely agree with her own arguments. The hypocrisy was startling, as was her explanation that this was “her blog” created “for her children”. As if assuming that a dissenting commenter would write something so offensive that it would taint her blog for her children.
I wondered if she took the time to notice that Heather’s blog is ALSO for Heather’s children. And if she viewed her own distasteful comment through the lens of Heather’s family.
Sadly, she didn’t.
Mary Ann says:
Oh Heather 99% of the people who read your blog – get it. I loved those pictures they were adorable. You apologized and changed your wording what else can you do I wore that same costume when I went trick or treating with my cousin who was dressed up as a pilgrim when I was 13 a long, long time ago. I understand that she was offended by the use of the word Indian, but her comments about the premie costume were just sad. Spend a day with a loved one in the hospital on life support hooked up to machines with tubes coming out of every inch of their body, feeling completely unable to do anything to help them, and I am sure she would change her tone. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone and I don’t on her, but seriously if a word offends her so much then maybe she has issues and needs some counseling. If it had been said in maliciously I would agree with her but I know it was just one of those slips, don’t stress over it, it’s not worth it.
coloradolady says:
Heather, I better just keep quiet today…I am however always amazed that someone thinks they have “the right” to say such things to another over their “own” issues. Clearly.
I would not worry any over such a persons comment…clearly…her intention was to hurt you or she has absolutely no tact at all….maybe both.
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The Bush League Cook says:
You handled the whole thing very graciously…well said.
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Adventures In Babywearing says:
Oh wow I had no idea this was going on. Both perspectives are fascinating to me. The line of political correctness and appropriateness is so personal, so individual, I don’t think it can ever be satisfied. Most importantly I think your intentions should have been considered first before she made such scathing and hurtful assumptions.
Steph
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Jodie Brooks says:
Totally agree with Steph!
Truewell says:
As an American Indian (yes, full-blooded, raised-on-a-reservation AMERICAN INDIAN. That’s what I — and most people I know — prefer to be called) I find Jensboys comments **so** utterly embarrassing.
Jensboys is a humiliation to the entire American Indian culture. She’s so absorbed with perceived persecution of her acquired children that she cannot see the forest through the trees.
Notably, this is precisely why there are rules in place to prevent most Native American Indian children from being adopted into a non-First Nations household. No 1 reason: Misguided parents who do more harm than good. (I know this from first-hand accounts – my mother was on the adoption committee that would review requests to adopt a child into a non-American Indian family.) Tell your kids they’re persecuted – there’s no better way to ensure that they’ll **feel** persecuted.
There is nothing offensive about the stereotypical “Indian” as long as you *realize* it’s a stereotype. (And even the most casual encounters with an American Indian will make you realize that we’re different from the stereotype, so it’s not a problem in the least.)
I’m just so humiliated by this woman. Please know that this woman’s words don’t represent our culture. At. All. I’m so sorry she felt the need to attack you and your beautiful family, Heather. And to insult beautiful Maddie, her memory and all the wonderful things that Heather has done to help preemies and their families? *shaking head*
This woman is a prime example of why people hate the activists; rarely, do they hate the cause. It’s the activists who go about it the wrong way and piss off the public — they’re the problem.
I hope this embarrassment to the entire American Indian culture takes Heather’s advice: “Please, don’t read my blog anymore.”
Really. Don’t. We don’t need a nasty, bitter individual in this otherwise wonderful, loving community.
-Truewell
Sarah says:
Thank you for that comment. I think this:
“Tell your kids they’re persecuted – there’s no better way to ensure that they’ll **feel** persecuted.”
…is so true.
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Brittany says:
This was an amazing comment. Truly.
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QF says:
Thank you for this comment. It was an eye opener because I didn’t know about the adoption process. It makes sense. This summarizes this woman:
She’s so absorbed with perceived persecution of her acquired children that she cannot see the forest through the trees
Megan says:
“Tell your kids they’re persecuted – there’s no better way to ensure that they’ll **feel** persecuted.”
Best. comment. ever!
Marnie :) says:
You said it PERFECTLY!! Awesome comment!
Caroline says:
Thank you, this was very well said.
tj says:
Very well said!
Terri says:
So well said!!! Totally agree.
Molly says:
This was my first reaction actually, that this woman seems to be having trouble dealing with this adoption in a way that will be healthy for her children as they grow up. I hope they all get the support they need.
Katie says:
If she doesn’t like it, she can stop reading your wonderful blog.
I love reading your thoughts and about your family. You’ve opened my eyes to a whole different world and a whole different perspective. Thank you so much and please continue writing despite that idiots over the top reaction.
amy says:
Ok those remarks toward premie’s was so beyond disturbing. I have never had a child born early but I am pregnant now with my third and I cant imagine having to go through my baby being born early and to read her comments..well there are really no words but DISGUSTING!!
I have some family that is native american and I was not offened in the least, never thought you were anything but having a good time and beautiful!!
Tami says:
, Wow , Thats really sad on her part. She should of kept her Mouth Shut!!
Im sorry Heather that you had to deal with this kind of crap.
jessica says:
Good god! I just thought it was a cute costume and when you put the wig on your daughter I thought “oh how adorable”….anymore everything has to be so freaking politically correct that its just ridiculous! I have a friend who is native american and would never be “offended” by someone wearing an Indian costume for Halloween….lighten up people.
And her comparison to Maddie is NOT the same…its not apples to apples at all!
Laurie says:
Here are my thoughts, and I have to admit that there were so many comments, I didn’t read them all, so I may be totally redundant, and I am a little nervous that I will get hate mail based on what I am about to say.
I am white, and I view race through my own experiences as a white person. With that said, I don’t see race as a tragic history, and I’m guessing (hoping) the original commentor doesn’t either, but rather that there is a very tragic history attached to the Native American community that continues today: high school dropout rates, drug and alcohol addiction, poverty, all things that could easily be argued stem from their treatment by white people, so while her daughter’s identity isn’t tragic, the history attached to her identity certainly is. If I’m being honest, I cringed a little when I saw the Native American costume, because I generally don’t like Halloween costumes based on race, but it’s your blog not mine, so I wasn’t about to criticize you. If a blog upsets me to the point where I would want to send such a critical message, I tend to stop reading it and show my feelings that way.
I know that for me, I have struggled to come to a place in my life where I am able to separate my experiences and struggles from others’ without comparing them or trying to figure out which one is worse. I’m working to be where I can say that all experiences are real and valid, and I am trying really hard to learn to just acknowledge other people’s pain, particularly in situations that they experience struggle that I don’t. I also try really hard to understand that when people get offended and I don’t or I don’t understand why, it’s not their fault, but rather a result from different experiences, and even if I don’t intend to offend or hurt someone, I did and that’s my problem, not theirs. I don’t think it’s fair to call her initial response and offense ridiculous (which a commenter did, not you.) With that said, I think that death trumps everything: death from a medical condition, death from violence, death from a hate crime, all things that happen due to all of the life situations listed above. In her description of a preemie, she did the same thing she was accusing you of doing while knowing that you have suffered tremendous loss due to Maddie’s conditions as a preemie, and that’s, as you said, below the belt and going way too far in order to prove a point. Her attempt to make her point proved to be insensitive and hurtful in a way that I’m sure she understood; otherwise, she would have used a different example.
Whew.
Priya says:
Well said Laurie….for both sides.
Laura says:
Heather- I love stalking, er, um, reading you. Your girls are ADORABLE!
Keep on keeping on girl. It’s your blog, your special place, say what you want and have to say.
I’m not nearly as brave as you, I keep my blog limited to readers I can control & trust. (It’s pretty boring, but I’d totally let you in based on your pure awesomeness.)
You just do what you do and I’ve so got your back!
Simply Jenn says:
I am a Native American, who also happens to have a daughter who was a preemie. I have never, ever felt that who I am is tragic- that who my kids are is tragic. To be honest, what stood out to me is that there were no African Americans talking about the hundreds of years of inequality and outright slavery. Not one. Of course history sucks and bad things happened to Native Americans, but in my opinion and in my life my ethnic background has never affected me to an extent that I even noticed. (As a matter of fact, I did not ever KNOW I was Native American until I was 18 because my father was adopted and his records were sealed and he didn’t care to know until then, so I didn’t know. I was CONSTANTLY being asked “are you Native American?”. I was never, ever offended, treated badly or affected in a way that would cause me to leave such an unbelievably vitriolic comment. And, when I found out I was Native American, I was like “Hey! Who knew? Now I know who I am and why I’m brown” (I can say that, right? Since I am Native American? I’m not sure I’ve got a handle on the etiquette here because the responses to that post were pretty no holds barred). Tragic, no. It’s who and what we are. I rather enjoy knowing my heritage.
Then again, I DO live in Oklahoma, and I am also related to Ulysses S Grant. So maybe nothing I say is valid (disclaimer: that is my sense of humor talking and hopefully is not offensive to tumbleweeds (OK) and alcoholics (U.S. Grant) anywhere.
.-= Simply Jenn´s last blog ..What the hell? I feel like I failed as a mom =-.
Simply Jenn says:
Ack! I also meant to say that I think you handled that situation with incredible grace and restraint. Your diplomacy was absolutely amazing to me. I don’t feel you were out of line at all (it’s YOUR blog), but I do feel that you are quite an amazing person and mama. (This is the point I was actually mainly focused on making). I only wish I had an ounce of your restraint. Truly amazing.
Kristin says:
I think this is my favorite comment. Mostly cause you said you were brown and cause you’re in Oklahoma.
Heather, that commenter was just mad and used the one thing she knew of to get under your skin.
I think we all take race/ethnicity/culture just a little too seriously. Of course, I’m white so what do I know? But I am married to a Mexican (who looks more Indian – Native American, whatever). He’s never taken the color of his skin so seriously. He embraces his roots and culture and anyone that doesn’t like it can take a hike. I wish we could all think this way.
I don’t see that dressing up as an Native American can be offensive. Its part of our history as Americans. What is the difference of someone dressing up as a Hippie? Or as a race car driver? Where are all the Irish people throwing a fit over the green wig that you wore?? Its all absurd.
I don’t mean to downplay the injustices that people have endured just because of their race. But I think that if more people used a little common sense and realize that wearing a wig does not equal racism.
I applaud you for your maturity.
.-= Kristin´s last blog ..thursday letters =-.
Deb Hauer says:
Awesome Simply Jen!!! I agree with you that you should be proud of your heritage. I think the commenter that started this should be proud that her children are Native American also. Most would be happy that others are wanting to know about their culture.
Karyn says:
i agree with you that there is a huge difference between prematuirty and race. its like apples and oranges. I come from Italian heritage. I am very pale and freckled with red hair (i’m the odd ball) my younger brother on the other hand is very dark skinned. In the mid 80’s and early 90’s when he was in grade school he was teased alot. He was called the N word numerous times, because the kids in our area and most families where white. My granfather was a WWII vet and probably the most racist person i had ever met. He used the word with abandon. Until his grandson was called it. He realized how much it hurt him. It totally changed how he viewed the use of the word and its implications. I know that it may not be the same as dressing up as someone else. I think its easy for someone to pull the race card because as Americans it is easy. We are not nearly as diverse as Europe. It is something that i struggle with because i’m someone who thinks everyone should be equal. I don’t know if this really has a point anymore and i think i’m rambling and that this makes no sense now. But either way, everyone has thier sturggles regarding race. Not everyone has struggles of premature children. To compare the two was a cruel attempt to hurt you. She moderates her comments but gets mad at you because she thought you moderated hers? Thats just stupid.
AnnD says:
You are right in that her comparison to the struggles other races, creeds and religions experience in this country is 100% not the same as a premature infant. And her description of premature babies is nauseating.
Apparently, she has her own judgmental issues to deal with because she clearly could not see that your INTENT was not malicious (or she did and chose to approach it like that anyway, which makes it even worse).
There is a difference between educating someone about what offended them, that can be done with dignity as well. It can be done without making false and horrible comparisons about someone’s CHILD.
At the very least she could have learned to spell the word preemie correctly if she was going to use it in that context.
As usual, you handed it with grace and dignity, Heather.
AnnD says:
handled, my bad.
jen says:
I just wanted to send you a virtual hug. An extra one, of course, added to the (((Hugs))) from here!!
.-= jen´s last blog ..good sport =-.
tonya says:
I once had a dog who became more and more terrified by storms the older she got. She’d eat baseboards off walls, try to break through windows, attack my other dog, I could go on and on. In discussing this with her vet, I made a comment like, “I just can’t understand! I stay with her. I make her safe. She’s trying to run into the storm she’s so terrified of?! Etc, etc!” To which he smiled and replied, “Now see, YOU are rational. You are trying to rationalize with the irrational, and that is not possible.” As silly as it seems, that was a lightbulb moment for me, and I”ve gone back to that advice many times since, and I’m not referring to dealing with dogs. Sounds pretty appropriate in this case, too.
Diane says:
Tonya… you took the words right out of my mouth.
.-= Diane´s last blog ..Getting into the crafty groove =-.
Christie says:
Spot on…SPOT ON.
Beth says:
You know, I’m part Sioux, and if you want to know what went through my head when I saw that picture was how much Annie resembles Maddie in it. I was in no way offended by either photograph or your use of the wig.
hawkfeather says:
I have already commented my fair share here…
I tend to think that if someone should be legitimately interested in observing another perspective on this subject- just reading these comments is an education in it’s self.
Sadly not a new one-
But In the spirit of being objectiveI strolled through these comments… seems fairly clear that not only do many people consider that costume as an accurate example of Native representation- but that it should also be accepted as such- without question.
I am bit blown away actually- Seems like the overall view is that prejudice against Natives is a thing of the past and not an issue of today’s concern-
And while I thought that coming at the subject with a more gentle tone and more understanding may have helped make the overall point.. I do not believe that to be true any longer.
I tried above to say that we can not be faulted for our ignorance- all we can do is be educated and after that we have a choice in how we will behave..
I feel I am seeing that choice in play.. it was clearly stated that at least some people find the term “Indian” offensive- I have to think the continuous use of the word is in it’s self a ‘point’.
Nichole says:
…
I think this is a bit of an overgeneralization.
hawkfeather says:
*surprising*
Simply Jenn says:
I honestly would like to know why the term Indian is offensive. Could someone please enlighten me? It was first used because Columbus thought he had landed in India, and assumed the natives were Indians. The only thing is that confuses me is when people use the term Indian- are they speaking of people from India or Native Americans? As a researcher I have to clarify that question often, but I truly don’t understand how it’s offensive.
Nichole says:
Granted. There are a number of comments that are culturally insensitive (intentionally or not).
However, there were also quite a few that were fairly enlightened or simply stated that they thought the original poster went too far.
Some people require more educable opportunities than others. As frustrating as it is, remember that each person comes with his or her own bias that may take quite a bit to overcome.
Everyone can learn something from conversations like these, attack their own automatic thoughts, and become more enlightened.
Anna says:
I think that’s all part of the greatness and folly of print on page. The spirit of what you read can be taken in whatever context you want. While I read through the comments, I didn’t see anyone say this was an accurate portrayal of Native American dress or how they should be represented.
Some people might read the comments and light bulbs will come on, or they will become curious about a culture that really, they didn’t know much about. Others might become so offended over one word incorrectly used that they immediately go into attack mode.
Nichole says:
Very true. It’s always a gamble when you throw something out in print! Particularly when discussing heated topics.
Unfortunately, I think that in topics like this, people tend to have such a significant learned history that it is VERY hard to overcome interpretation bias of other people’s words. A lot of emotion comes into play, and I think we spend more time talking in circles than getting to the heart of the matter and learning about each other.
hawkfeather says:
xxx
“You were dressing up as an Indian, so what? I’m sure this person and her family dress as Indians all the time, you’re an American, why can’t you dress in your country’s native clothing”
xxx
This is just the example the springs to mind from this conversation- I am not sure my point was clear though-
My concern is that perhaps this icon may be an indelible imprint in the North American consensus. I do agree these conversations and views have *so* much history- familial opinions, personal beliefs, it is hard to wade through all the levels to actually be able to *hear* why this might matter so very much to someone.
On some very basic level witnessing this unfold is a reminder of the nature of people.
– I had a conversation like this with a woman about the use of the word *retard*-
When all is said and done- if someone says “Hey this word offend’s me” “this is causing me pain” “could you please avoid….”
*AND* in the grand scheme of things it has NO affect what so ever on you to *not* use the word..
you can argue logistics and semantics all day- but what purpose does it serve to keep doing it?
You could take it to any crazy degree.. but why?
I can not speak to why another find’s a word offensive- I have been trying to address that North America has such strong tendencies to resort to stereotypes of Native culture that it almost begins to override the actual heritage- and maybe the word “Indian” isn’t the word all people consider the one that describes *them*..
a thousand people can say- I am native and it doesn’t bother me.. but if even one steps up and says it does- and there is an alternative.. I guess people and the way they work is just a sad reality to me at times.
And yes some will learn and be educated form hearing these differing views- but I do see some comments here I consider blatantly prejudice, and to me it taints a site I consider a beautiful tribute to a life tragically lost.
Nichole says:
I hear ya. And completely agree that when you find someone who is offended by a word that is used to describe them, you should use the alternate word.
There are certain words that society agrees upon as being taboo. You hit on a REAL big one with me: “retard”. And to be perfectly honest, you bring the word “retard” into the conversation gave me a new level of appreciation as to how some people could be offended by the word “Indian”. Thank you!
Not to discredit, and simply just to bring these points into conversation, I think that it might be hard for those who haven’t had a decent amount of exposure to Native culture to know what to say.
You have Native American, Native Indian, people who want to be referred to by their tribe name only, Americans, Aboriginals, and yes, Indians. There is the Department of Indian Affairs…for goodness sakes (which, I was actually VERY surprised by when I first started looking into interning within a tribal school).
Again, I’m not bringing this up to make an argument against you. I just wonder if there are so many seemingly accepted ways of saying Native American, that some people unknowingly offend someone?
As far as Heather’s readers tainting your view of her site? That’s your business and your choice. I think that her allowing for this converstation to happen allowed for an open forum that gave the opportunity to promote some kind of awareness that might otherwise not have happened for some.
madge says:
I don’t see how commenters’ opinions should taint your opinion of Heather’s blog. She asked for perspectives. If you don’t like the caliber of her readership, you don’t have to read comments. But, I wouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
hawkfeather says:
for the record- I said ‘the comments’ here taint to site for me not the commenters, and they do- as I said in my opinion I do consider a handful of them prejudice-
I actually don’t think there is anything wrong with unintentionally offending someone when you are ‘well’ intentioned- how could there be- I also see form reading the comments that the word alone wasn’t the issue so much as the costume- and the ideal Americans seem to have of Native people and Heritage. I know many natives who use the word Indian themselves- still one Native person can not give permission to offend other Native people-
I hope that some people will walk away with an insight they can appreciate- I just see a blog about a family and i know how I feel when negativity is so closely associated with my own children or family- and than I read things like- you should have told her to fuck off- i want to punch her in the face… and it makes an impact, on the quality of *this* exchange which stood to be so beneficial and hopefully help Heather with a blip in blog land, but to how I also see Heather’s community here.
Also for the record- you do not have to like something or agree with it to be able to appreciate experiencing it- look at the number of commenters telling another not to read this blog- yet people also are quick to point out how Heather is gracious to host this conversation and engage us with it…
There is a little community here weather people accept it or not- and that *is* an aspect of this site- I think it is beautiful to see people defend Heather out of what I think is a genuine love- but a handful of the posts defending her are so harsh and negative as well- and before twelve people comment that I do *not* have to read it- like I said- I do not think debate has to be unhealthy or done in attack mode- like I said you do not have to *like* everything to appreciate it- and as people are quick to remind- Heather graciously is providing a venue for this exchange and even asked for feedback.
I honestly don’t really need anyone else to *see* things in the same light as me for it to be valid.
Morgan says:
Dear Heather,
You and your blog are beautiful-wigs or no wigs. In this decade of our lives, people need to stop using their race as a crutch. If a black child with a mother on welfare can grow up to be President of the United States- NO ONE has any excuse to pull the race card anymore. It is important to be proud of your heritage, but don’t hide behind it.
Melissa says:
Hi Heather,
I am so sorry this woman felt the need to take it to this level. My father was in the Marine Corp with and indian. He was his best friend and best man at my parents wedding. He and his wife are very active in indian affairs. I keep using that word because that is what they call themselves. They are a proud people and they happen to think all this PC nonsense of calling themselves Native Americans is just silly. You werent trying to offend anyone. And when I was a little kid and indian was a halloween costume, so was a cowboy, a robot and and barbie. She took it way too far for bringing Maddie into it. I so enjoy reading your blog and watching Annie grow. keep up the good work.
AJ says:
I was one that found her blog. I posted a comment on her post about the situation. I very politely told her I admired her for her foster parenting. I really, truly do. I then went on to say, that I thought people were upset, but not becuase she stood up for the race of her children (as she was claiming in her post), but because of how she attacked you immediately and very personally upon thinking her comment was deleted.
Guess what? That comment didn’t make it past her moderation. So I commented again and told her I was sorry to see that she was only posting one sided comments, and that I didn’t feel I was rude to her. Needless to say, that didn’t make it either.
Bottom line, her response was neither proportionate or appropriate. And from one mom to another, she was just flat out mean.
I can not fathom saying those things to someone or putting someone through more pain than they have already been through. I am just stunned at her response.
And for someone preaching ‘tolerance.’ Flying off the handle about a comment she tought was deleted doesn’t necessarily express ‘tolerance’ to me.
m says:
i just want to add that her derogatory description of preemies is totally incorrect. preemies are absolutely beautiful and perfect looking in every way. she’s an a$$hole. i don’t care what ethnicity her kid is– that doesn’t give her the right to be a d*ck.
Deidre says:
At the age of 45 I am still very ego centric. I don’t read others comments, I just scroll down to my empty box and begin to write. Wow Heather, I never realized people are out there just waiting to find something. I never would have thought about the wigs as offending anyone, but that is just me. Anyway, your a smart woman and know how to deal with these comments! Go for it babe! OR hand it over to the english teacher! He always seems to know how to calm things down, as long as your not at a concert dancing next to him, we are all safe!
.-= Deidre´s last blog ..End The Funeral With A Wedding =-.
Heather says:
Sometimes I feel like the internet is just full of people looking for SOMETHING to get upset about. Hey world, lighten up. I can’t believe all this came from a little post about wigs.
Karyn says:
exactly!! i love your blog, the outlook you have on life having been through such tragedy, and how cute both Maddie and Annie are! Keep doing what you do, and if others are really THAT offended they’ll stop reading.
I love playing dress up with my niece. And when she dresses up as a fairy or pixie, i’m sure i’ll wonder if Tinkerbell would have been offended (i had to be a little silly with all this seriousness going on).
Heather says:
Karyn, thanks! Although, this is a different person commenting, not me!
Xo
Angela says:
Honestly I think that if she was offended then she didn’t have to read it. This is a public forum and no one is making her read what you post. I look forward every day to reading your posts and never EVER would have I have taken some funny post about teaching your kid to have an imagination and to dress up offensive.
This commenter really needs to take a step back and realize what heather was saying in her post. I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt it was ment in a melicous mannor ( even when she dressed up at 22) She was just saying that she has always loved costumes and the idea of dressing up, it lets you open up yor mind and experience new things she was not saying that dressing up as an indian..oh excuse me native american was a way to make fun of them. HOWEVER the commenters stab at premie babies offended a HECK of a lot more readers then heather dressing up as an indian.
Maybe the commenter should stick to reading blogs politically correct to HER and not a blog dedicated to a families struggling with premie babies. Heather your humor and light and strength has brought so much joy to so many readers. please do not take one commenters soap box rant as anything to worry about.
Anjie says:
Personally I have no respect for anyone who thinks the world owes them something because of what race they are. While there is still a lot of hurtful racism in the world, the injustices that have been done to their race is over with and has been for years. To them I say, get off your pedestal and live normally.
Well said Heather. I think you’re a very respectable person with a lot of tact. Many virtual ((HUGS)) to you.
.-= Anjie´s last blog ..Limbo… =-.
Lindsay from Florida says:
“The injustices that have been done to their race is over with and has been for years.”
“Get off your pedestal and live normally.”
That’s very difficult for people to do, consdering that injustices are still rampant. In the US, it’s not necessarily as blatant as it once was (i.e. slavery or mass genocides), but it is still there, under the surface, in so many ways, every day.
JennyTM says:
This is true for many races – not just Native Americans.
Lindsay from Florida says:
Oh, very much so!! Didn’t mean to relegate it to any one race. It also applies beyond race: gender, sexual orientation, ability (physical or mental), etc.
Jesika says:
I thought that was a hippie wig!!!
Rosetta says:
I was offended when I saw the picture of you dressed up like an “Indian”‘ but I didn’t say anything for fear of being taken for a troll. Bring 22 is no excuse. You dressed up like a Caricature of an entire race of people to impress a boy, and then years and years later proudly posted a picture of it on your blog without hesitating, or even thinking for a moment how it would look and feel to a person of color. You then, rather than simply apologizing for a racist mistake (which all of us will be guilty for a points in our lives), instead made the whole mess about the character of the person who brought the issue to your attention. Guess what? People brave enough to speak up when something is offensive are often a little extreme themselves. I didn’t say anything yesterday, but I’ll say something today. It is racist for white people to dress up like charicatures of “Indians.” You were ignorant not to know this, and continue to be ignorant through your backhanded/insincere apology. Having a gay brother has nothing to do with it, and neither does the attitude of the person who called you out. You were wrong.
dawn says:
Next time something on this or any blog makes you uncomfortable – email the writer – see if it was ignorance or maliciousness – ignorance can be dealt with – maliciousness – well you probably don’t want to use your time reading that person’s blog anyway.
I’ve done it before, and generally whoever wrote is pretty receptive to a conversation between two people in private rather than a comment explosion with so many voices.
[note – this comment is in reference to last week – today you were totally invited to comment publicly]
Sarah says:
She has apologized. She has opened this subject up for comment and conversation. She has admitted that she was wrong to use the term ‘indian’, (although there seem to be various commenters here who are, or know of, native American people who are not offended by that term), and that she shouldn’t have worn the costume, and that she would not wear that costume again. What do you want?
I really feel that some people (not just you) need to get over themselves. I accept that terrible things have happened to many peoples throughout history, often as a result of racism and fear, and I by no means think that should be ignored. I am fully aware that racism and other types of bigotry (yes, including homophobia) are alive and thriving today. But does my sister playing Tiger Lily in the school production of Peter Pan make her a racist? No. She was 7 years old. Does it make the teachers racist? No.
Yes, it’s a sterotype, but we all *know* that it’s a stereotype. How can perfect tolerance and understanding be reached until it’s universal? It’s a two way street. Just as a black, or hispanic, or asian etc person should certainly not face prejudice because of their appearance, the colour of their skin, I do not see why I should be made to feel bad just because I was born with white skin… Being white doesn’t mean I’m a persecutor, or a bigot.
.-= Sarah´s last blog ..My current desktop background: =-.
Rebecca says:
Rosetta,
This goes for you too…IF YOU THINK HEATHER WAS BEING MALICIOUS (which obviously she wasn’t!!!!!) IN HER POST AND DON’T LIKE IT? Dont.Read.The.Blog….this is HER blog, SHE can write what she wants!! I cant believe the extent some people are going to, to bitch!
Heather says:
I don’t know how many more times I can say that I was wrong, or apologize to make you think I am sincere. I’ll say it again: I was very wrong, and I am truly sorry. If you want to believe I don’t mean it, you are welcome to, but then you are the one who is wrong.
Carin says:
Rosetta –
I respect your opinion, and the conviction with which you deliver it. The reason why I can respect your position is that you did not, unlike the commenter represented above, deliberately try to hurt Heather in return. I can understand Heather’s need to address this sort of response in her entry – it became a matter of public post because the original commenter went too far. While the offense was legitimate, it undermines any effort at clarification to “hit back,” so to speak. You must admit that the commenter’s caricatured description of a preemie was unnecessary at best.
We must learn to disagree with respect. That being said, language like ‘you are ignorant, you are racist’ is hurtful because it assumes so much. You admit yourself that everyone makes such mistakes in their life. I’m sure your aim was not to hurt Heather, but to back up the basic sentiments of the original commenter. I would also recommend not minimizing the struggle her gay brother undergoes as a minority. You risk hypocrisy by highlighting the struggle of people of color while disregarding the struggle of the GLBT community.
Thank you,
-Carin-
Katherine says:
So you decided Wednesday was a better day to be a troll? By the way, I find that term incredibly offensive to the magic-enhanced native peoples of fairyland.
Seriously, though, I wouldn’t have worn an “Indian” costume either, because I grew up in a town (Berkeley) where we were taught about these issues pretty early.
So Heather didn’t think about these issues at the time. When they were brought to her attention, she did respond. I think she understands.
But what everyone needs to understand is that sometimes, the frontal attack approach doesn’t achieve the desired result. Calm explanation that doesn’t take cheap shots might. How do you handle disagreements about other issues with people you care about? Do you try to have a reasoned discussion or do you just say “you’re wrong”? How does that work out for you?
Melissa says:
Seriously? Stop.
Karen says:
I am very proud of my bloodline. I’m anishnawbe / irish / english. In my life, I have seen and heard very hateful examples of racism towards my native culture. I have also been discriminated against for not looking native “enough” (ironically only from white people).
It is hurtful when people are disrespectful and show real disdain and hatred toward indians. (Where my family is from – Manitoulin Island, Indian is a very acceptible term and there’s nothing wrong with identifying with that term either, thank you very much.)
Personally, I’d like to see a lot less Disney costuming of native culture and far broader understanding and acceptance. To do that we need more open dialogue and mutual respect. Getting angry and calling well meaning people racist is too extreme and all it does is aggravate the issue.
Heather DID apologize. Her nasty commenter (as far as I can see) has not apologized for her very hurtful and really uncalled for comments.
There’s a HUGE difference between ignorance and disrespect by the way.
Lori says:
If you are offended by Heather’s cute blog about her family and experiences STOP reading it. No one is forcing you to belong to this blog family. STOP ATTACKING HEATHER! It is her blog!
Heather- I hope one day I learn to control my thoughts about jerks the way you do. I am impressed! BTW I do not think your are ignorant or disrespectful!
Andrea says:
I don’t get what the big deal is…it’s just a wig and a costume. How is that offensive? Let me say that again it’s just a costume. My first thought was how cool to dress up the baby and take pictures not oh this is racist.
MB says:
You know, I agree with you. The comments are what are really blowing me away though. I haven’t seen such so much brazen and unchecked white privilege in a long time.
Java says:
I never understood opinionated people like that. The way I look at it is that they are unhappy in their own life and therefore chose to make others unhappy in the process! Not worth your time!
.-= Java´s last blog ..Wedding Dilemma #2!! =-.
Julie says:
Heather:
As the mother of a preemie and a person whose great grandmother was a Native American, I am truly appalled by this person’s response to you.
Race or where your come from is not a tragic reality unless you make it out to be. The tragic reality is what you and your family have endured. We are what we are…..for her to make that comparison was totally uncalled for.
You are truly a class act how you handled that.
Julie
Jenn says:
ok. let me first just say that those pictures of Annie were adorable- she is the cutest baby. And as a person of Native American decent with a Cherokee tribal roll number and everything, I never even gave it a second thought when I saw those pictures. It was a cute baby dressed up in wig, that was it. She wasn’t holding a tomahawk or scalping anyone. Even when you did it as a 22 year old, it was in good fun and I think that’s the difference. I can see that there are people who take the jokes of Native Americans way to far, but she needs to lighten up. I am sorry for what my ancestors went through, but she needs to learn from history and be proud of her heritage, not throw it in people’s faces every chance she gets.
Jennifer says:
When did dressing up in a costume become the automatic equivalent of mocking someone?
It is difficult to be politically correct 100% of the time. And with that, the “politically correct” term changes often.
My daughter likes Pocahontas and Princess Tiana, so if she dresses up like them for Halloween, does that mean she’s making fun of them? To compare your situation to dressing up children as preemies was way over the line.
I hate that we still live in a world with racial discrimination and connotations, where people feel the need to make such ludicrous comparisons, but doesn’t making an issue when there was no negative sentiment attached just fueling the fire?
I don’t know. My thoughts.
Lisa says:
When I heard about the comments and came over to check it out it made my blood boil. I was so angry that I decided to hold off commenting back, I did eventually come back and say something when I wasn’t so heated.
I think you handled it all with the grace, understanding and intelligence that you so often demonstrate. And, this post, again demonstrates that. I’m interested to read what others have to say on the topic.
I grew up in Southern Ontario in a town right next door to a Native reservation. In fact much of the town I grew up in is owned by First Nations people. I grew up learning about their history, their culture and had many Native Americans as friends. I’ve dressed up a few times as a Native American, once for a school play and a couple of times for Halloween. When I dressed up as a Native American at Halloween it was for a couple of reasons. It made me feel beautiful, it was representative of a historical, strong, female character, someone who inspired me. I don’t seem where it is wrong to do that.
If you had been dressing up in a discriminatory way, displaying a negative part of Native history then I can completely understand why people would be upset. But that is not what you were doing.
.-= Lisa´s last blog ..Photography by a Two Year Old =-.
Kathy in Indy says:
Oh my word. Some people are simply not happy unless they are stirring up trouble. In simply infuriates me that the commenter would use a premie as an example. As a Mom of a premie who did not make it, and another who did I cannot believe the indecency and outright inhumanity of this person. How do they sleep at night??? Heather, you did nothing wrong. You also handled it far better than I ever could have. Kisses and hugs for Annie.
Jenn says:
Hey Sweetie,
When I read your post today it made me frustrated, angry, upset and sad. The fact that “race” was even brought into when you were clearly just playing with your child, saddens me. When I saw the picture of Maddie in that wig my 1st thought is…”OOhh. ;look at that baby, she almost doesn’t look real, she looks like a doll with her fair skin and so beautiful” . The rest of the wigs, I laughed, especially the clown on at the end.
Obvious the reader does NOT know you and hasn’t been here long b/c if she was and had, she would see your beauty and know you would never make fun of any race or put anyone down.
When my husband told Heather and Mike about my medical condition they both automatically said the same thing…”WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP HER:”? Their kindness floored us and brought us both to tears considering all they were going through, that they would even stop to Think about ME!
I have never met 2 more kinder people in my life and to think that even 1 person thinks Heather would put anything on this blog to hurt another human being – no matter what their race is…MAKES ME SICK!!!
I do absolutely agree with some, there is a time and place to defend a person or race when someone is obviously making fun or putting this person down but that’s NOT Heather. The Heather I know is giving and kind and it would break HER break if she ever hurt anyone by accident.
I could go on and on but I don’t want to talk about any more of this nonsense. Heather…you are a beautiful soul. I believe you never did or would HURT anyone and I can tell you this for sure.,…You will ALWAYS have a friend in me.
Love,
Jenn
christina says:
Been a long time reader and am first nations but when I saw that post I didn’t bat an eye, and took no offence. Now back to bed for a couple of hours of sleep hopefully!
alissa211 says:
Hi Heather – I am a faithful reader of your blog and look forward to your posts each day. I don’t comment often but this post really got me. This is absolutely ridiculous. You did nothing wrong in wearing that costume and posting the pictures! I don’t see how one’s race is “tragic”? I agree – it’s something to be proud of. People really need to lighten up and stop being offended by everything!
*hugs*
Alissa
c.c. says:
she probably hates the song YMCA and says it’s racist, too. And she probably boycotts all the old cowboy and indian westerns, too, also for that reason.
some people take political correctness way too far.
a costume’s a COSTUME. not too be taken seriously.
having said all that, i dig that you don’t moderate your comments. i’ve never understood why people do that.
.-= c.c.´s last blog ..blog party! =-.
Karen says:
My race is not my “tragic reality”. I took great offense to that comment. (and even greater offense to how she described premature babies. There were so many other ways she could have made her point.) It’s sad that she in effect thinks her children’s race is a tragedy that must be pitied. Wow. At the risk of sounding cliche and preachy, we are all created in God’s image and he made us all different and what *is* tragic is that those differences scare some people and cause divisions and created a need for the political correctness that this whole thing stemmed from.
Denise says:
I’m not even native american and was taken aback by “tragic reality” . Yes it was tragic, and there are still ramifications today, but I felt she should be proud.
Miche says:
Hey Heather, I just wanted to say that I am 1/2 Native American of the Navaho Nation, and I just wanted to let you know that I am in no way offended by people dressing in traditional N.A fashion. I have worn my own ceremonial outfit as a Halloween constume-and certainly not to make fun, but to show my pride and to share my knowledge and heritage with others. Many people don’t realize I have that background because I look more like my dad (who is white), and I love being able to share the history of my mom’s people with neighbors, friends and strangers.
So long as things are tastefully done-like I feel your costume was-then I think it is a huge nod to just how much of an impact on our history native people’s played.
Obviously that commenter has gotten a bit overly sensitive, which I would think might have a negative impact on her daughter’s Native American self image-they should be PROUD of who they are, and PROUD to share it, just as we all should be, instead of trying to find (and creating) slights we twist into being offensive.
And on another subject, I do prefer Native American to Indian; however, I take no offense to it.
Anyways, I wanted to throw my two cents in, since I can come from that perspective.
.-= Miche´s last blog ..Building Up =-.
Priya says:
It is unfortunate that Jensboys had to make that terrible comment about preemies because before she did, she actually had a point. And whether others agree with it or not, it’s her right to be offended and to speak up because of her life experiences.
I think that some of the commenters took it too far by bashing her first comment, because of her second comment. I understand that her preemie “comparison” angered many of you (as it did me) however, by using her second comment as an excuse to make uneducated comments back at her…well then you are just sinking to her level.
I get so sick of hearing people say “I am tried of being PC”. Seriously? How sad, you have missed the point of being Politically Correct. It’s about respect for others whether it is related to their race, gender, sexual orientation, economic class, etc. As Heather said so well it’s about “understanding that no one is better than anyone else”. And unfortunately that is just not the case in this world we live in. I also see many comments (not just on this blog) about not living in the past, to stop being angry about what my ancestors did to your ancestors. That makes plenty of sense but racism is alive and well today! I am sure that Jensboys and so many others have experienced this time and time again in her life and so when she saw that wig, she felt compelled to speak up because she felt it was wrong.
Heather, like so many of us, was not intentionally offensive. She is a good person who just didn’t think it through, and now she has. And that was the point of the original comment…too bad it didn’t stop at that.
And to Heather, I am such a fan of you, your family and your blog, and you should be proud of the way you handled this situation. Stay classy!
Sorry if my comment was all over the place…haven’t had my morning coffee yet
Jill says:
Well put.
.-= Jill´s last blog ..True story =-.
Kendra says:
My great-grandmother was full-blooded Native American and your use of the word “Indian” does not offend me at all nor would it offend anyone in my family. I think some people TRY to find stuff to bitch about. I mean, seriously, I still call Native Americans .. Indians. *shrug* Not a big deal unless you have a corncob stuck up your butt.
She was way out of line with the rest of her comments
Candice says:
I know I’m supposed to be nice here, but I can’t help but say that this person sounds like a total nutcase. And her description of a premature baby makes me want to punch her in the face. Anwyay.
I can see how writing “Native American” is more PC. How about this? You were dressed up as Pocahontus, the Disney character. Just like people dress up as Buzz Lightyear. I didn’t see anything demeanig about your costume.
I think some people just want to find something to get upset about. If you look for it, you will find it, however ridiculous!
.-= Candice´s last blog ..Mother’s Day =-.
Momma Uncensored says:
heather. i think you need to go on a rampage about anyone who ever dressed up on st. patty’s day. aren’t you irish? didn’t they get oppressed? heck.. all of the women commenting on this site have been.
i can see her perspective and using the politically incorrect WORD.. but COME ON LADY!!! the costume description was disgusting and vile.
there is heritage and then the loss of a precious baby. considering she seems to have children you think she’d be more sensitive.
.-= Momma Uncensored´s last blog ..32 weeks =-.
Barnmaven says:
I think that there are some potshots being taken here that fall south of the line and I wish people would keep in mind that Heather is trying to start an open, calm discussion about issues of race, about how the things we say and do can hurt, and what are appropriate ways to respond both sensitively and respectfully. I’m seeing some very sensitive, respectful, THOUGHTFUL replies, but I’m also seeing some mean things being said here that I don’t think contribute to the discussion.
I am not going to try and understand how hurt the woman felt. I couldn’t possible, I don’t have her cultural experience. Clearly a nerve was touched, and then she believed her comment was deleted which of course inflamed her hurt and made her feel as if she was not being listened to. Ultimately, isn’t that what people want, is to be heard? She wanted acknowledgment and when she mistakenly believed her post had been pulled, she overreacted. It would have been a good time to step away from the keyboard and choose her words more carefully, because it was a great discussion to have.
Heather, I think you were very gracious in your responses to her, you showed restraint that I’m not sure I could have after she very deliberately pushed the biggest button she could have found.
I’m not sure whether the level of PC required in our society is over the top or not. I do think that we have to understand that people are sensitive about things for reasons we might not know or understand. There’s a fine line between being somewhere between being inclusive and sensitive and feeling muzzled. Honestly, I don’t know where that line is sometimes. All I think we can do is keep trying to talk about it with the goal of understanding, but in the process stop trying to force our opinions on others.
.-= Barnmaven´s last blog ..Is there such a thing as an honest relationship? =-.
Sara says:
I guess I dont understand how dressing up as a Native American for Halloween is disrespectful. Is it any more disrespectful than, say, wearing leiderhosen? I mean, it’s not like you said “I dressed as an Indian to show how great it was that we oppressed them to have our awesome American nation!” It’s more like, their traditional outfits are cool and I want to wear one for halloween? Maybe it’s just me and my white privilage that doesn’t see it as racist.
Jane says:
Hey, I never comment on your blog and we’re kinda sorta buddies. Fiascos like this are the reason. You are one of those bloggers who inspire crazy, irrational loyalty amongst people who don’t know you from Eve. The only thing I wouuld have done differently in this case would have been to put a stop to the madness sooner, but that’s my style, not yours and you can do what you want.
For the record, I don’t like Native American mascots, costumes, etc. I think they are highly disrespectful. If a person who I know is not an asshole does it, I assume the person most likely doesn’t mean anything by it. I mean, entire cities, including the one I live in, have sports teams with distasteful names and mascots and that doesn’t mean every single person in the city who doesn’t write an angry letter to the editor is an insensitive asshole. As you may or may not remember, I had an incident a few years back where I insulted several black colleagues by making what I thought was an innocent remark about them always sitting together at work gatherings. I was horrified at myself and learned a lesson about thinking before speaking.
Having just watched America: The Story of Us, I understand the “tragic reality” comment. It was just said awkwardly. The treatment of Native Americans was and continues to be just plain horrifying and a disgrace.
Hauling out the preemie remarks was dirty fighting. I’m willing to bet that person knows that. I am proud that you are strong enough now to handle something like this. If only your flying monkeys gave you the same credit.
.-= Jane´s last blog ..Good luck with the healing. Or whatever. =-.
Nina says:
These are complex issues, and I for one don’t have any of the answers.
I just think that since part of white privilige manifests in the fact that we have not experienced racial discrimination ourselves, we don’t get to be the judges of whether it exists or not, or what is offensive or not. Until not that long ago race WAS a tragic reality because people were legally killed, tortured and assaulted on its basis alone. Race still has components of tragic reality about it – from the persistent toxicity of negative stereotypes, to reduced opportunities and outright discrimination. I think Tim Wise’s post on white privilige illustrates this well: http://www.redroom.com/blog/tim-wise/this-your-nation-white-privilege-updated
It is of course a fine line between assuming what is going to be offensive to another, and assuming what is going to be okay because no harm was intended by it. I have had huge arguements with my mother about the fact that she calls me : “my son” as a tenderness (I am a daughter) because while I get that it is a cultural term of endearment, it is also one that has arisen out of a legacy of misogyny and therefore I personally do not want it endorsed.
While I am all about the celebration of diverse heritage, and I felt somewhat confused and upset when the idea of me wanting to learn the heritage of others was seen as ‘cultural appropriation’ in the end I decided that I was wading into something where the context was far larger than my own innocent/good intent and that I’d have to listen harder about why something is a problem before I decided that it wasn’t and dismissed it as people being overly sensitive.
I get what she was trying to do with the description of the preemie costume – linking what she meant with your own experience in order to make the comparison vivid and real.
I have incidentally seen some unpleasant renditions/paradoies of preemies to do with OctoMom and Michelle Duggar’s youngest child and the people who did them insisted it was just for fun and how could anything be offensive about it? I was clearly merely deficient in humour. I know plenty of people who think saying ‘gay’ or ‘retarted’ is funny and plenty of people who disagree and find it offensive.
The 9 most racist Disney characters is also a good illustration: http://www.cracked.com/article_15677_the-9-most-racist-disney-characters.html of how something innocent-seeming is rooted in deeply unpleasant subtext.
I don’t want to set myself up as any kind of anti-racism expert, or an authority on anything except how to maximise naps while pregnant and looking after a two-year old, but I have learned to take less offense at the offense of others and to draw only tentative conclusions from my own experiences.
As your own life shows, race, class and education do not shield you from awful tragedy. On the other hand they do tip the odds in the favour of others responding to you with compassion, support and access to the best medical technology available. And the fact that race and class appear to be significant factors in determining whether other people have equal access to the same IS a tragic reality as far as I’m concerned.
Since it is easy to sound like an ass in the blogosphere, just to be clear: words are clumsier in manifestation than in my head – it is not my intent to cause hurt or offense, and I apologise unreservedly if I have. Similarly, I am not saying you personally are a racist, nor am I saying that you shouldn’t have had access to the priviliges you did. But I am attempting to answer the question you asked about how race can constitute a tragic reality.
roshan says:
I am an Asian and I do understand what you are trying to say.
Karen says:
I stand by my comment that one’s race is NOT a tragic reality. There is nothing inherently tragic about one’s nationality. What *is* tragic is how one’s race may be perceived by others, and the resulting discrimination and persecution. As an african american, (or black as I prefer to say, and do not get offended by that reference) I understand from experience discrimination and ignorance. I have lived it and felt it, but I don’t let it define me. I am not how I am treated, I am how I handle the treatment. Am I offended when people make racist comments are act out of ignorance and stupidity? Of course, but again, it doesn’t make me or my ancestors a tragedy. To say that is insulting and degrading and racist in it’s own right.
Kim says:
Amazingly well said. Really, a very sensitive and subtle response.
Kathy says:
To go a little off topic here–as far as Tim Wise’s post, he is making a grand assumption about a lot of white people in the U.S. Everything he said was exactly why I DIDN’T vote for those candidates. Nor did more than half of the country. Maybe they were “privileged whites”, but those privileges didn’t get them to the Whitehouse.
I voted for my candidate because I thought he was the right man for the job, but you can’t deny that he benfitted from “black privilege” votes, be it because voters identified with him or simply because they wanted to play a part in a historical moment.
MB says:
Wow, that was the most awesomely reasonable and level headed thing I’ve read in this thread so far.
J+1 says:
You handled this well. It’s so hard to deal with this kind of stuff online, where “tone” gets muddled and people think things have been deleted and feelings get hurt, etc.
.-= J+1´s last blog ..Sunshiny =-.
Lindsay from Florida says:
Oh, so many sides to this … and some validity to every side, I think. By and large, I agreed with this woman in her first comment last week and was viscerally disgusted at her second, knowing that she had gone too far, particularly on this blog. That being said, I genuinely believe that in her mind, she was making a valid analogy, not necessarily with the intent to hurt, but with the intent to create the same type of visceral reaction in you that she felt at seeing her daughters’ heritage used in what she perceived as a demeaning way. The difference, as you have said, is that her words dig so, so, so much deeper because they summon up an image of what killed your amazing Maddie.
Also, I may be interpreting this incorrectly, but I do not think the commenter was calling race a “tragic reality.” She says that it’s as wrong to costume one person’s tragic reality (meaning MADDIE’S tragic reality) as it is to appropriate historical dress as a costume. I think we’re making a leap in assuming that she also meant that race is a tragic reality.
Even if I am wrong in that interpretation, though, I actually do find it fair to at least associate the words “tragic reality” with race (or with a person’s sexual orientation for that matter, as you bring up with your brother). Not that the race or the orientation itself is tragic (to me, those are a part of your identity and something to take pride in) … but the prejudices, the bigotry, the continued upward climb that certain races and orientations need to fight every day just to come anywhere close to an equal footing with more privileged races and orientations, the fact that any pride you might have or want to have in yourself can be systematically wiped out by all that I’ve already written … those ARE tragic realities.
I was never aware of my Eurocentric perspective on the world until I joined certain social justice groups in college and now work with under-served students. There is an ugly history of racism and prejudice in this country (and around the world), and it is still rampant. I take issue with other commenters who seem to be brushing off the woman by saying, “This all happened in the past.” Yes, it did, but it’s also happening in the present. I’ve had to confront some things about myself that I didn’t even know were there before college and have learned that it’s far, far too easy to say that you aren’t part of a problem just because you yourself aren’t racist. As long as you enjoy the privileges of being white, you’re implicated in a SOCIETY that is still terribly more racist than we might ever want to admit.
I could keep writing, but I need to get to work. Thank you for opening your blog to us on this topic, Heather. It’s a graceful way to handle a difficult situation and, as you said, to spark a more productive conversation than happened last week.
sandy says:
wow! I HAD to put in my two cents. that commenter, if offended should have stopped reading your blog. did you MAKE her read your blog? no! hello? not that you did/said anything wrong with the Indian costume (people get hung up on the dumbest things) …but if you had..it is YOUR blog to do with what you wish.
by the way…you dont know me..somehow i happened upon your blog a few years ago and read it every day..i followed your life and you have brought me to tears and made me laugh too..thanks for letting me share your life! you rock! (AND you make beautiful babies!)
take care…
maya says:
I threw up in my mouth from her comment about Preemie costumes. HOW THE HELL could anyone in their right mind describe something like that? What, were you wearing a bloody Native American costume?
She is obviously not in her right mind, or she wouldnt be coming here to stirr up trouble.
.-= maya´s last blog ..Bumpy Ride =-.
Kaylan says:
This really has sparked quite a discussion. I just wanted to say that I do love reading your blog and thought the wigs/costume posts were adorable! I especially love when you do the video posts! They make me laugh every time! I think you have definitely handled this issue wonderfully. Hopefully it will soon pass and we will have all learned to be a little better to each other.
.-= Kaylan´s last blog ..Regarding the Questions Post =-.
Amanda says:
I don’t understand people who want to go around egniting conflict with others. Don’t they have better things to do? I’m sorry this woman caused so much turmoil here.
.-= Amanda´s last blog ..Minnesotans Are Screwballs =-.
dawn says:
I cringed when I saw the wig photo and the word Indian.
Somewhere along the way, I’ve absorbed the concept that dressing like that is uncool. [It may be because my husband wears a kilt for formal occasions and kilt wearers are very clear that it is not a costume but traditional dress.]
As for the word Indian – at this point, Native American is more descriptive and a listener knows you mean a person or group from North America rather than someone with roots in the country of India.
I didn’t think you were being malicious, so I didn’t spend time pondering your motives past “hey lets talk imagination”.
Language is powerful – which is pretty fucking awesome really.
robyn says:
FYI, many Native Americans call themselves American Indians. Hence, the name of the Smithsonian museum in DC–the National Museum of the American Indian. (http://www.nmai.si.edu/)
You may not have been as politically incorrect as your commenter would have you believe.
.-= robyn´s last blog ..Hello, My name is… =-.
monica says:
oh my gosh. The ridiculousness of some people. I say, get a freakin life!
Lisa says:
I am a direct descendant of Native American Indians. I wasn’t offended in any way. You should’ve told her to go fuck herself.
Molly says:
Yikes. Why do people have to go there? I’m sorry if this ruined your day, or even put a damper on it.
I enjoyed the link to Kyle’s post, by the way
Michele says:
I didnt see the previous comments. My mom is Native American and while I’m not a fan of people dressing as “indians” any more than I would be of people dressing up as KKK members, I was appalled about the whole dressing a child up as a preemie. It ripped my heart out this morning! I dont even know what I would do if I saw such a thing!
.-= Michele´s last blog ..Quad Update =-.
Molly says:
Heather,
I haven’t read all the discussion, but I just wanted to say that before you get too deep into comparing incomparable things, like being Native American with having lost a daughter, just remember that sometimes people get too upset about a blog post and spend a lot of time arguing in the comments because they’re upset about something else in their life. Their problems should not be your problems.
I agree that we should be more aware of Native Americans’ perspectives, but bringing up Maddie’s cause of death was just cruel, and I’m sorry one of your readers felt the need to make you feel hurt.
Molly
Jessica says:
I am also the Mother of 3 beautiful Native American kids. During my sons 4th grade mission project my Native American Husband stood behind my son and I as we typed it up and kindly asked us to change the word “Indian” to “Native American”. Done, and understood. It didn’t take any kind of harsh comparisons on how the word Indian made him feel to get his point accross. In fact, responses like that are not how we want people to be educated. I am sorry that you recieved a comment like that. That is not how I would want one of my 3 kids to let their friends know that they are Native American. Harmful words like that are NOT what their culture encourages.
So does this mean that she is writing msgs. like that to the Cleveland Indians, the Washington Redskins, etc. or is she just choosing to bash Mommy bloggers like you?
You’ve got the love and suppot from this Mother of Native American children Heather. Thank you for your honesty in your blog.
Michelle says:
I’ve started this comment about 15 times and have a million things to say as a mom of 23 week twins, but there’s really no need to explain. What it comes down to is that this woman is obviously off her rocker and has no self-esteem whatsoever. Oh, and she’s also a b1tch. If she had any valid point at all it was completely lost in her insanity. As my husband so wisely says, “You can’t reason with a crazy person.”
Heather, you obviously have much more grace than I do. Your girls are and always have been beautiful.
Denise says:
As far as I am concerned, two wrongs don’t make a right. Although I don’t feel that you were wrong, just maybe uninformed. My bro-in-law is Jewish. Every Easter my granny wishes him a happy easter. Is she doing it on purpose, no. She just doesn’t think. My bro-in-law realizes this, thanks her and wishes her a happy Easter. Normal people understand that others make mistakes. But to turn it into somethign malicious, due to a misunderstanding, was not good. By the way I have noticed that sometimes my posts don’t show up but I have found out, through others, that my words are visible, just not to me. I hope this is a good learning lesson.
Karen says:
Hmmn.
Well, I didn’t read that selection of comments, though I kind of wish I had now! I also haven’t read all the comments here because it’s late and my eyes demand closure. The only observation I wanted to make was that I have always tended to believe that intent plays a huge part in whether something is offensive or not. Certainly ignorance exists and there is no harm in educating people so that their future choices might reflect better understanding of the issues involved but the way to do that is not to hurl insults or adopt self-righteousness in an attempt to covet pain. I firmly believe that humanity is allowing itself to fall into a pattern of hyper-sensitivity. Wanton, intentional, blatant acts of discrimination made with full understanding of the impact should not be tolerated but reacting to every single instance of an “outsider” misunderstanding or not acknowledging your own personal grief is just a stress-inducer for all parties concerned. Gentle correction is the key. If the person concerned meant no personal offense and you choose to take it anyway, then the one evoking the pain is you as far as I can tell. There’s enough sadness in the world without looking for it under every nook and cranny.
I also disagree with her analogy. Had you dressed up like a dirty, half-starved Native American, portraying a clear portrait of one who had suffered horrendous atrocities, THEN she could claim it to be on par with someone dressing up in the full premmie-baby regalia. As it stands, I’m pretty sure your outfit is no more than someone dressing as a baby who may or may not be a little on the small side.
.-= Karen´s last blog ..I’m Tired and I Want to Go Home =-.
Hef says:
I read all of her comments when she was commenting on your post. I didn’t have time to comment then, but I do want to share my thoughts.
I too, am part American Indian. I have no issue with the term “Indian”. I am not offended by your wig. I actually think you helped my kind by showing that you wanted to be like us. I don’t think you were trying to make fun of American Indians. I believe you were just having fun. And as an Indian, if I’m not offended, she has no right to be offended. What she is teaching her children is awful. They will grow up thinking that they have to be offended every time someone uses the word Indian or wears an Indian costume. I feel sorry for them.
And as far as her comment on premies, that was just wrong and awful. I’m sorry you to had to go through that. Nothing compares to loosing your baby. I hope you can just forget all about her. You have many more people that care about you and your family. I love you and love reading your blog!
mjp says:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with wearing any wig you wish and there is nothing wrong with saying anything you want about it. People who get so easily offended are the ones who need to rethink their stance or perhaps get help for their inssecurities. For example, I don’t get offended by symbols of religions I don’t belong to. But many people do for some reason I cannot fathom.
Sue says:
I could write hundreds of words on this, Heather, but only want to say that YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL, and I believe that you would be the very last person to make fun of someone. I sit here crying,,,,, with my heart pounding,,,,, at such a comment……………….
Nicole says:
Heather, I am so sorry this commenter had to go so low. I think it is great how you handled it and continue to handle it! Way to go!
.-= Nicole´s last blog ..How I Became the Mean Lady in the Neighborhood =-.
Jenny says:
Is this woman ashamed of her daughters’ heritage? I don’t understand the “tragic reality” of their race. Your life is your own, and it is what you make of it. Statements like this make me think that she is setting her daughters up for a lifetime of “victim” thinking.
I am so sorry that she disparaged premature babies, some of whom really do face a “tragic reality”, or at least a greater battle than those without severe medical conditions. I am sorry that she lashed out in such a way. Premature babies are warriors, not Halloween costumes.
What a missed opportunity! Instead of advocating for pride in the Native American heritage she opened a can of vile, ignorant hatred.
.-= Jenny´s last blog ..Mama Moments =-.
Chris says:
The word “indian” has been imbedded in our brains since we were little and sometimes it’s hard to get out (but never said with disrespect).
Who hasn’t dressed up with their siblings as a cowboy and indian….that was the best!
I still keep telling my daughter to sit “indian style” and she always corrects me…”Mom, it’s criss-cross applesauce now.” WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!
Still can’t get used to that one!
Also, I like to go to the casino alot so I figure I paid my dues;)
Rebecca says:
Gasp! All I have to say is, what a sick comparison this commenter made. Also, if she doesn’t like what you have to say on your blog? SHE SHOULDN’T READ IT! I don’t understand why your Indian costume was offensive? Keep doing what your doing, the rest of us really enjoy reading what you have to say : )
Rashmi says:
Hi Heather,
I rarely read your comments, but when I saw this post, I went back to see the comments on your old post.
I am from India(living in Canada), and my 4 yr old daughter loves dressing up in Indian traditional clothes. In fact, I have seen many children in our area come in their Indian dresses for Halloween (as Indian princesses). When I see these kids, I actually feel very proud of them. The reasons :
1. wow, there are families from India living in our neighborhood.
2. When these kids will be seen by people of other cultures, they’ll comment on their beautiful dresses, and ask them from where they got it. This way they’ll become a little more aware of our beautiful culture (reflected in our colorful clothing).
3. When I see women other than from India dress up in sarees (even though they are not draped the way they are meant to be ), you will not believe I feel so proud, I’m moved to tears.
Why, oh why, would someone be offended if someone else tries to duplicate their dressing is beyond me. And then, compare it to premature babies is just outrageous.
You did the right thing of writing about it in a separate post, and you did it so gracefully.
Your daughters are so so beautiful.
Rashmi
Kally says:
Honestly I had no idea that someone wearing a native american costume affended native americans. I guess that opened my eyes. The commentor apologized and realizes she was completely off the handle. We can all appreciate that sometimes things can get out of hand and feelings go very deep with heritage and culture. You handled yourself very well Heather under the pressure.
~Michelle~ says:
Oh, Heather, do NOT be ashamed about your costume, or use of the word “indian” in your post. Goodness knows, we all have been down this road before, with absolutely no ill intent. I believe there are simply people out there LOOKING for a reason to rant, just to stir up controversy – and they get a charge when they’re successful in doing so.
Honestly, people like this need to move on. His/her preemie comment WAS with ill intent.
FYI, I support equal rights, therefore I choose my words/actions carefully. However, there WAS a time when I may have used words now viewed as offensive, but I never had ill intent. I just did not know any better. Heck, I went to college at Miami U. in Oxford, Ohio – we were the REDSKINS. GASP. It has since been changed to the REDHAWKS.
My point? Being politically correct is a work in progress. There is a difference between offending intentionally, and using a term that has been a part of our language for many, many years.
Take care, Heather. And, please, ignore the ignorant. They WANT to hurt you … do not give them the satisfaction!
Jennifer says:
Also, as a woman, you should be very aware of discrimination. Thing is, we have all become so used to it that it barely registers anymore. So you do have an idea of sorts how it feels.
As you are aware, a native american outfit is about as acceptable as dressing in blackface these days. We have become an ultra sensitive society, so better or worse. I (as a lesbian) would take offensive to someone dressing as a “typical lesbian.”
I think it is beyond ridiculous to think that you are racist because you wore that costume. But what I thin the original poster was trying to say (i could be waaaaay off) is that posting that picture now, well, that is really wrong. There was a disconnect between your sensitive brain there, all for the sake of showing off a wig. That would be like justifying black face by saying you are just showing off black makeup. And because of the aforementioned super-sensitive society, so people DO feel like they are owed an apology. The somewhat scary thing is that you didn’t realize this until it was pointed out. Because if you did, I highly doubt you would post that pic.
LizL says:
I almost feel like the commenter is taking the road of a lot of media and sports media. They say something incredibly offensive (like compairing the Obama administration to Nazi Germany) getting press for it, then taking it back later.
You handled it well, better then I.
Mindi says:
Heather, you are grace personified…nuff said!
Camie says:
I think opening this subject up for comments again is wonderful on your part, Heather. A lot of people would have (justifiably) not been able to have seen past the comparison to preemies and closed the subject, and the fact that you’re willing to look past that cruelty in order to discuss demonstrates a lot of good faith.
I try to think a lot about institutionalized racism, even though I’m white. And for the some of the reasons that you mentioned above, because my life does intersect with oppression. My partner is a woman. And like you’ve seen with your brother, it’s sometimes tough. We can’t get married. We’ll probably have to move to another state in order to have children (and seeing adorable Maddie and Annie is making me want to speed that up!). My partner can’t be on my health insurance, which is hard because she has a chronic illness. We can’t always safely hold hands in public.
People who are straight don’t go through that. It doesn’t make them bad people, it just means they have straight privilege. I try to think about it the same way with white privilege. Because I’m white, I can do things that people won’t question. I can see good representations of my race in the media. I never have to wonder if I’m being pulled over because of my race (Peggy McIntosh’s Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack gives a long list of these). Does that make me a racist? Of course not! But just like a straight person gets something that I can’t have, I automatically have things that a POC may not have the benefit of having.
Things like the costume are ultimately pretty silly (I admit I don’t like them and rolled my eyes at the teenagers buying them last year) but I think they could be a symptom of institutionalized racism. If someone wears a lederhosen, people don’t assume that’s an accurate representation of the cultural, but if someone wears an Indian Princess costume, they might. Silly, but I do think it’s an important conversation to have. Thank you for hosting it and for letting everyone say their piece.
.-= Camie´s last blog ..The House. =-.
QF says:
Okay…
I have been thinking about my response for a while and I hope it comes out as eloquent and fluid as it did in my mind.
When I first saw the picture, I did not even think that it would cause such a “controversy.” It did not come across as “racist” or “insensitive.” It seems to me that the majority of people who are Native Americans or of Native American decent do not see anything wrong with it either.
After that nasty comment from your reader, I began to think about this whole debacle and here is what I think:
I feel that dressing up for Halloween does not make you a racist, mean or insensitive.
Why do I say this? Because I have dealt with racism and discrimination for a long time. Trust me, it does not come from someone dressing up in a custom. It comes from the people that I deal with when I go out or do business.
I am Mexican. I came to the States when I was 14 years old. I didn’t know the language. I graduated high school with honors. Instead of going to college, I helped my father start his own business. We had been very successful until the economy tanked. I feel more American than I feel Mexican at times. I married a white boy (is this even the correct term?) and I have a gorgeous girl who has inherited the best of both of worlds.
Despite all of this, I still get questioned by people I met if I have a green card. My accent makes people think I am an idiot. The city where I began my family’s business gave me a harder time with permits than other people with the same business…and guess what? They weren’t dressed up mocking me or my culture. They were normal-everyday people. This is scarier than a silly person wearing a Mexican Poncho.
So when I see people celebrating Cinco de Mayo (we didn’t celebrate it growing up) or wearing Mexican hats, I don’t get upset. Chances are, they are just having fun. I don’t demand an apology or insult them. If something bugs me (like the term Hispanic), I tell the person to call me either Mexican or Latina. I don’t attack them.
Maybe I just have thicker skin. This person should have contacted you via e-mail to discuss what bothered her.
I have followed you via Twitter and only once have you said something that bothered me – in reference to cheating spouses. I have wanted to contact you about it, but it really isn’t that big of a deal. I just wanted to offer you a different perspective.
Okay, enough ranting
Trisha Vargas says:
Agreed QF. I think that it came out very eloquently and I understand where you are coming from, only from the other side.
I am the white girl (it’s okay, I can call myself that) who married the Latino from Puerto Rico. I see the racial barriers he encounters in work and day to day life and it is far bigger than someone dressing up in a costume.
I am Irish & German and if someone wants to celebrate Saint Patty’s day dressed as a leprachaun or dress as Hansel & Gretel for Halloween, I only find it cute and flattering.
Perhaps I have thicker skin too. I would have never dreamed that Hether’s post about wigs would have turned into such a rant for some.
sensibly sassy says:
I really want to give you a pat on the back for handling it the way you did. You could have fought fire with fire but instead you answered it with patience and grace. That takes a lot of strength.
And as for the woman, she had a point in all of that but she has completely overshadowed it with it her anger.
.-= sensibly sassy´s last blog ..Secret Identity =-.
Christie says:
We have two children, both adopted. One from Africa. One from China. And from day one, we have taught them what we feel is a golden rule:
Choose not to be offended.
That simple.
There will likely be many times in their lives where they’ll feel the sting of racism. And frankly, Africa is raging with civil war – genocide indeed. China has been silently “doing away” with baby girls for decades. Genocide.
Still, it’s important that they understand that half of the battle is choosing not to be offended.
We could all be offended by a myriad of things in our every day life. The least of which is a costume depicting a particular culture.
Choose not to be offended, people.
Heather, clearly you’re not a raging racist who has an evil plot brewing against the Native American community, thus wearing a “Tiger Lily” costume to secretly act out or perpetuate your message of hate. I mean obviously, right?
She thought she was educating you. Which is not her place. She also thought by giving a graphic and highly inappropriate shock comparison, she could force you to see it her way. Also not her place.
And using your deceased daughter to make her point about a stupid costume that is neither offensive nor out of place, was so insensitive and outrageous – I’m at a loss there. Was the costume really that important to her? Did she really believe she was reforming you? Come on…now I ask you? Did Native American’s not dress like that? Depicting a CULTURE, regardless of love/war/peace/freedom/whatever – is not the same as depicting a crime. And we could list many examples here of that. What about people who dress as…well, a Chinese girl. Kai-Lan, for crying out loud. Are we mocking ALL the little girls who have died in China because they were unwanted by dressing up as Kai Lan?
Good God. What are we doing?
Dear highly offended people: it is not your place to decide what other people wear, think, feel, or blog about. Yes, even if those things aren’t what you would do. Even if they aren’t to your liking. Even if it rubs you the wrong way.
Even when people refer to my daughter as a “China doll”. Ugh. Even when people (archaic though their thinking is) vocalize their displeasure that we’re a white couple raising a black child.
Here’s a little tip to help you get through every day without feeling the world is a walking slap in the face and every person in it who doesn’t think like you, set out to hurt and offend you and your culture: choose not to be offended.
We are taking politically connectedness way too far in this country and it’s completely out of control. This country is becoming a land of people who are too busy being offended and no longer interested loving their neighbor as is.
What are we doing?
Barbara Maloney says:
“Choose not to be offended” thats awesome! Words everybody should live by!
Kate says:
love it…so well said.
Alexis Rodriguez says:
Beautifully said. There are so many ways to be offended, to be dragged down, to be made to feel inferior, but at the end of the day, how you think about yourself, what attitude you want to carry you through the day, and how worthy you believe you are, are up to you. I’m very glad you’re raising children.
daisybv2 says:
I am so sorry that she said that! And you are a gem for handling it how you did.
I am a premie mommy and I can’t believe that someone would even be at that level. I am so sorry that you had to read that Heather Hugs!
Shari says:
Botton line is there will always be people out there that are not happy and you cannot please them all. If they feel offended they should no revisit your site. You have plenty of people that look forward to your daily blogs and find you very inspirational.
I have never posted but I thought this was absurd and totally out of line. She has a right to her opinion but not be be down right hurtful. I was shocked this issue even came about.
I must add you have two of the most beautiful happy babies I have ever seen!
Dawn says:
Oh Heather, This is tough, but let me start by saying that I love your blog. With that being said, I was shocked to see the picture of the wig and then the use of the work “indian” in the post. It made me uneasy and I do believe it is racist. I didn’t read the comments because the post had made me uncomfortable. So, I missed the whole discussion you are referring to.
You have encouraged a much needed discussion on race and privilege here today. Unfortunately, few places exist for us to discuss, theorize and enlighten one another especially around the topic of racism. Instead, we as a society prefer to believe that racism is a thing of the past, which unfortunately is not true. Sadly, based on the comments here today it appears that many are glossing over, or simply dismissing the issue completely.
I would strongly encourage you and your readers to take a look at a short article written by Peggy McIntosh examining her own “white privilege”. http://www.nymbp.org/reference/WhitePrivilege.pdf
I agree with you Heather, the commentor had a valid point. I think she was trying to demonstrate to you how salient this issue is in her life. Undoubtedly, this caused you pain and anger. I applaude you for trying to open this topic up for further discussion. I hope we can move past the “who’s right” debate and open ourselves up to a meaningful discussion on race and priviledge (which I believe was the original topic), without engaging in negative or hurtful words.
Peace.
Lindsey says:
I suggest not reading the comments then. They REEK SO MUCH of white privileged that it was completely disgusting.
Lindsay from Florida says:
I agree, Lindsey. I felt so torn last week … 100% understanding Heather’s pain over that sickening image of a preemie but also wanting to lash out at the ignorance displayed in so many of the comments. In the process of defending Heather, some truly horrible, thoughtless, and outright racist things were said without a second thought.
I’m so glad that today’s post returned to the topic, and a more civil, enlightened conversation (with a few notable exceptions) is now taking place.
These issues are so close to my heart, which is why I’m commenting all over the place today. I can’t stop coming back to see what’s being added.
And yes, EVERYONE should read the “Unpacking” article. Encountered it in every Women’s Studies class and every service group I took part in during college. Eye-opening. I wish a few people from last week’s post would read it …
Rhonda says:
I can’t believe you people are actually turning this into a race thing! Get over yourselves and don’t bother trying to convince all white people to feel guilty and be oh so PC to protect all of your precious feelings! UgH!! We are not ignorant to past or present injustices that happen to some people because of whatever, fYI, we just choose not to harp over piddly crap like a GD costume!! We as in our White Privileged ancestors, did help and did stand and still do stand for civil rights to all, but GET REAL and get over the little S#$T!!!
Rhonda says:
That is one big, steaming pile of crap! Everyone should read that and have a good laugh!
Lindsay from Florida says:
Rhonda, I never aimed to imply that you are ingorant to past or present injustices, not at all. And I do agree that, in the grand scheme of things, a Halloween costume that was not put on with the intention to hurt anyone is a minor issue (though I resent you calling it “piddly cr*p or little “s#$t,” since many on this post have very eloquently explained why it’s distressing to them). What I was referring to were some of the comments that went far beyond discussing the costume last week.
I am sorry that the article is a “big steaming pile of cr*p” to you and it made you laugh. I wish I could say something to make you think of it differently or approach it differently. Could you explain to me why you found it so funny and offensive? I found it very balanced, and it made me think in a way I hadn’t before.
What most angers me (aside from what I perceive to be your blatant hostility and unwillingness to even consider my position, which was stated without malice) is your comment to “get over [myself] and don’t bother trying to convince all white people to feel guilty and be oh so PC to protect all of [my] precious feelings”. I AM white, and I don’t want to foster guilt. The article is not meant to foster guilt. But what is so wrong with thinking through our inherent privileges and how they play out in society?
I hope you will respond. And I hope this time, when you do, you won’t curse or belittle a viewpoint just because it differs from yours.
Kathy says:
We can no more help the fact that we are born “white and privileged” than other people can help the fact that they are not born “white and privileged”. Why should we feel bad about that?
Then we should also feel bad if we are born American? Beautiful? Intelligent? Athletic? Healthy? These are also qualities that people are born with and can’t change. These qualities also allow special privileges, no matter what your skin color. Interesting that she didn’t examine any of that in the article, especially the privilege that comes with being American.
Yes, I am white and yes, I have had privileges in my life because of that. But being “white and privileged” didn’t prevent my husband from losing his job or save us from drowning in medical bills. It didn’t prevent me from having cancer nor my son from having autism. It may have actually increased the odds. So maybe I am “white and privileged” in some areas, but sometimes being “white and privileged” doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.
You say this article isn’t about infusing guilt, but it is. The underlying message is that since we are white, we have privileges that others don’t and we should feel bad about that. I refuse to feel guilty for being white. Instead, our family thanks the Lord everyday for all the good things we have been given in life and we take very seriously the societal responsibility that comes with being “privileged”.
At least the author did address the idea of working for equality across society, so there was something I could relate to in here.
Dawn says:
Kathy,
You are right, we cannot help the fact that we are born white and priviledged. Nor does that protect us from cancer, autism, unemployment etc. Guilt is a limiting emotion, so I also agree that one shouldn’t feel guilty about being white.
However, I don’t believe the author is suggesting that all white people should feel bad or guilty. Rather, McIntosh demonstrates through the examination of her own life how racism has been institutionalize in our society and how this largely goes unnoticed, further perpetuating the racism.
I think it goes without saying that Heather is a fabulous person as is evident in all of her posts. I do not believe that she posted the picture or used the term ‘indian’ in a malicous way. Once informed of the mistake she apologized. I can also understand why she was hurt by the following comments.
Not only did Heather apologize she provided a space for us all to engage in a meaninful discussion. This is an important part of McIntosh’s conclusion. McIntosh argues that raising our own consciousness about white privilege is an important part in breaking down racism. Hopefully, our discussions here today have forced us on one level or another to consider our own priviledges whether they relate to gender, class, sexuality, race or ability.
Peace
Lindsay from Florida says:
Thanks for this response, Kathy. I interpret the article differently, but I arrive at the same point you do as a result: “Our family thanks the Lord everyday … and we take very seriously the societal responsibility that comes with being privileged.” So perfectly and eloquently said.
And being part of a traditionally more privileged group should NEVER diminish that people of any race and background have some VERY real, very painful struggles, such as those you described.
Debbie says:
Dawn! That is such an AWESOME article. I never in my life understood white privilege until I read it for a class last year. It should be required reading for every single person.
Katherine says:
I am reminded of this gem of a song from Avenue Q…
steph says:
For someone to have a “holier than thou” respect for race, they should certainly have a “holier than thou” respect for the human life. Your child’s death has absolutely nothing to do with race. In America, we have freedom of speech and freedom of expression. And your blog forum is just that…your expression of you and your family. If the reader had a problem with the costume, a simple comment about its appropriateness should have been given. Instead this individual determined it necessary to hit below the belt in a sick and twisted way. This individual is likely plagued with some sort of personality disorder and has no concept of other’s and their feelings. A child’s death is in no way, shape, or form related to race, the race card, or a silly costume. I am Native American and think the commenter does an injustice to us. He/she makes Native Americans look like idiots….and having Native American children does not make you part of the race…just to set the record straight. Mr./Mrs. Commenter….go straight to the psychiatrist and get some treatment for your serious personality disorder! And don’t forget, people with mental disorders are discriminated upon too. He/she has a new cause to fight for!!!!
Bethann says:
it was a wig … if you are offended by a baby in a wig you have bigger issues than being native american.
You were extremely gracious to apologize etc. but in my opinion you did nothing wrong and she was the one that was offensive.
Trisha Vargas says:
Heather,
You have amazing restraint. Yet another quality added to your list of many that makes me come to this blog everyday and read it !
(((HUGS))) from Florida
m says:
CRY ME A RIVER!! I think Indian costumes are so freaking mainstream, are you really going to blame heather for this? Because when she was 21 she wanted to wear a headdress?
Everyone knows she didn’t mean anything by it. And Rosetta, or whatever your name is, and the original commenter- I hope you stop reading Heather’s blog. You can’t have your cake and it too. I’m sure you won’t, though. You’ll just sit there and find reasons to be offended and victimize yourself in the comments section.
Heather, you’ve never been anything but kind, well-intentioned, sweet, and thoughtful. You’re my hero.
amy2boys says:
Well done! “Also, can someone please tell me how race is a tragic reality?” So right.
The comparison tp preemies is absurd.
See? Everything is the Hippies fault. heh.
.-= amy2boys´s last blog ..Salted Caramel Strawberries =-.
jeffra says:
wow, Heather…looks like you opened a can this time! Who would have thought those adorable pics would have started all this? All I want to do is kiss that balding Annie!!! xoxoxo
MissAujahAcorn says:
I am Native American… this hole thing is hog wash.
Who freaking cares about an Indian costume? As a matter of fact, I dressed up in my native gear for halloween all threw my child hood and if someone called my Indian… I could not care less. Because… WHO FREAKING CARES? and this whole comparing it to a preemie baby, disgusting!
Karen says:
You know… seriously. It was just a costume. There was no mocking in that gesture. People have become so overly sensitive. Her description of a preemie was horrendous. Your wearing of a wig in the style of native americans was a depiction of their beauty. Hardly the same thing. This person has anger you can’t argue with… when there is no logic, there is no point in engaging. There is nothing wrong with you wearing an indian costume, me wearing a greek toga, my sister-in-law wearing whoopie goldberg look alike attire to a party. She is italian. She also happens to love Whoopie Goldberg.
Please, people… be kind to one another and GET OVER IT. If we keep reading into things as RACIST, there will never be an end to racism.
.-= Karen´s last blog ..No man is an island… =-.
Lindsey says:
You can’t pretend racism doesn’t exist and then cross your fingers and it will disappear. Sorry but for us to someday live in a post-racial society ALL OF US (including the white folks like you and I) need to educate ourselves on even the smallest undertones of racism (like wearing a Native American costume) and fight against that.
Karen says:
I’m hardly pretending racism doesn’t exist, and for your information I do much more than cross my fingers and hope it will go away. I’ve always tried to bridge the gap, because I feel we are all equal and deserve that respect. I am also not white, I am an ethnic mix, as are most of us, in truth. What I believe is that when we highlight racism when it didn’t even exist, we add to the problem.
Erin W says:
The commenter clearly needs better things to occupy her time…like seeking counseling for her bitterness towards the world.
roshan says:
For people who say racism is a thing of past, should also educate themselves as what it was before dismissing it as something which doesn’t exist today. This may be off topic but there is a need to know what exactly happened in the past to understand the present and why people of minority races react as they do.
PLEASE TAKE YOUR VALUABLE TIME AND READ THE ARTICLE ON THE LINK BELOW:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/04/honoring-chm-one-drop/38952/
Molly says:
I hate when people consider things like this an attack. Lots of native americans are actually looking up fights as they did/do face things the above comments describe, so they are angry in general and inside, and bitter. Just the other day we were in the store and one native lady just went straight to the cashiers, by passing a line up of about 4 people. One older gentleman “dared” to ask her (kindly I might add) to go to the line. You should see how she freaked out and started yelling, things like Becuase Im a native you dare to yell at me (he didnt), and you wouldnt if i would be a regular white trash like you are, and things like that. We all saw it. This is not the first time i witnessed a similar situation. ITs really sad that some of them are looking up fights like this to get an unecessary advantage and then they freak out even more if there are others that do things to celebrate their heritage. That lady that left comments is bitter and unsecure adn there is nothing you can do. She was just waiting for an opportunity to start a fight. And comparing apples and bananas? Would you dress up as a East Indian exotic dancer, but you wouldnt most likely dress up as a cancer patient !
Debbie says:
And “they” are all like that, right? Some of them just deserve racism, right? “It’s not my fault I think less of them, they ARE less!”
In Canada (where I’m from) native children were yanked from their homes in the 50s and 60s and forced into “Residential Schools” where they were beaten, sexually abused, and worse. This lead to generations of abusive parenting and substance abuse, which has lead to an entire people that continues to suffer physically, emotionally, culturally, socially, financially, TO THIS DAY.
I’d be angry, too, if that were my history.
Bad behaviour is never okay, but it’s also *never* just inherent badness. People aren’t looking for a fight. They sense it in every step they take in a world that has wronged them since before they were even born. Can you even fathom the tragic reality (truly) of being raised in a world that thinks as little of you as you do of “them”?
Where is the compassion for people who have suffered?
It’s disappointing that you suggest that Heather’s wearing that costume on Halloween to impress a hot guy (her words) is “celebrating their heritage”.
Your entire comment smacks of othering and condescension. Very sad.
I don’t think Heather would agree with you – by the tone of her post, she’s not looking for racist support.
Dina says:
Debbie, you are throwing everyone in one bag. I am a native and went to a residental school, Im one of those children “forced” but we never had encoutered any abuse. Because it happened in few schools, doesnt mean it happened to everyone and every school. I dont know where you get this idea from but its a total misimpretation. And to excuse someone’s dependency on a substance and alcoholism by having gone to a residentail school its pure wrong. You should read your facts first, before you start “educating” people around.
Yes, there are people that suffered, but there are tons that did not. ANd its not true that natives are generally being looked down by everyone. Yes, there are some, but again, there are lots of awesome people in our nation that are natives and made it far. I am a teaching nurse and we make sure that everyone who wants get an education. Native students here in canada often do have an option to study for free, but they must want. ANd lots of them want. And then tehre are some that sit on their buts and wait for somoene to give them something and get pissed when they are told to get up and take care of themselves. And I have encountered quite a few people and situations like Molly above describes, where people with native heritage look up fights to get what they want or an advantage and throw in the racism if they are not getting their way. SOme of our people are very smart and know how to walk these shoes.
SO again i would suggest that you do some research first before you leave comments like this
And btw im from canada too so I do know quite a lot about the problems with the native americans.
Debbie says:
Hi Dina,
My “research”:
Rosalyn Ing, “Canada’s Indian Residential Schools and Their Impacts on Mothering.” Pp. 157-
72 from “Until Our Hearts Are On The Ground,” ed. by D.M. Lavell-Harvard & J.C. Lavell
That article, among others, brought me to the belief that what some people see as proof that there is something inherently wrong with racialized people is really the effects of generations of systemic racism. You should read it.
If you think that I’m so totally wrong about child abuse and its relationship to substance abuse and poverty and anger in adulthood, explain to me why you think these problems are so huge in the First Nations community?
I don’t deny that there are First Nations people who have achieved great things. But I think it’s incredibly naive to suggest that the woman described in the original commenter’s story was just some angry loser who feels entitled because of her status as a First Nations person. It’s just plain wrong to say that she was born that way, that that doesn’t come from somewhere. It DOES. It comes from SUFFERING.
I experienced abuse as a child and I can say with certainty that every single good thing that I do with my life is a thing that I accomplish IN SPITE OF what I have suffered. That’s where my perspective comes from. People who have suffered? We can definitely expect great things from them. But we should also be prepared to show compassion when they struggle.
It’s like we’re all in a race in this world, except racialized people (and mentally handicapped people, female people, people with minority sexual identities, people of lower class) have a delayed start. Sometimes they win the race, but not without extra work compared with all the privileged people who started out ahead of them. It’s not fair, it’s not right, but it’s the reality. All people were created equal, and then society steps in and tears the equality up.
Where do I get the idea that abuse was rampant in the schools? Our Prime Minister acknowledged it in his apology to First Nations peoples:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/06/11/aboriginal-apology.html
He said himself: “While some former students have spoken positively about their experiences at residential schools, these stories are far overshadowed by tragic accounts of the emotional, physical and sexual abuse and neglect of helpless children, and their separation from powerless families and communities.”
And I totally agree with him. Your positive experience is just a needle in a really awful haystack. How lucky you are. You should use your privilege to help others, not to marginalize their suffering further.
I’m willing to learn more, I’m willing to change my mind, but your arguments haven’t gotten very far with me. If you’d like to refer me to some more research, bring it on.
Nina says:
When I saw the pictures with Annie and yourself in the wigs and your use of the word “Indian,” I took note and thought about saying something since I knew you obviously didn’t intend to be offensive or hurtful. But I didn’t because I figured it’s more important to fight the intentional racism and not the unintentional ignorance. (I say that meaning no disrespect – just that you were ignorant of the significance of what you were saying/doing.) Also, I’m kind of conflict-adverse.
Anyway, I think she went way over the line. And not that it justifies it, but it is SO hard to explain to people (especially white people; it’s just the reality) of racism. You see it even in the comments here where people are pulling the PC card (“It’s PC gone crazy!”). It’s just really hard to get somebody to walk a mile in the shoes of somebody who has experienced racism or who has seen their children hurt by it. And so those that try to explain or educate might tend to be overly-sensitive or go overboard for one reason or another.
What she said was hurtful and cruel and worse, it was done intentionally. But while what you did was totally unintentionally hurtful, it was hurtful and brought up, I’m assuming, all kinds of other racism-based pains that have nothing to do with you.
I think you’re totally justified to be hurt by what she said. She crossed the line. But I guess I felt the need to explain a little bit why race is such a big deal, why it is a tragic reality even while it is something to celebrate. Many of the comments here reflect the kind of “white privilege” that she was speaking to and, even though she did it in a way that I can’t condone, there was a reason she felt a need to speak up. (BTW, I am half white, half Asian so I’ve seen both sides of the coin, so to speak, all my life.)
I’m sorry that she said that Heather. I am horrified that she would go to that tender spot in your heart just to make a point, however important that point was.
.-= Nina´s last blog ..Babies =-.
Molly says:
OH and I might add that few years ago we dressed up like Apaches and went to camp to the teepee with our friends that are doing it quite often and it was beautiful to celebrate the Apaches heritage and learn so much about their culture !!! And last year we dressed up baby Sydney in the ladybug costume. And you know people feel about insects !! If you know what I mean …
Anna Marie says:
Whew, Heather. I just went back to the wigs post and read the comments…I usually don’t have time to check out comments each afternoon…and I’m speechless. To invoke sweet Maddie’s prematurity like that is just inexcusable.
Lisa says:
Okay, so first off I didn’t read all the comments (none yesterday) so sorry if this is rehashing…
but read a few from today’s post….and from the comment of the few INDIANS that I read…I have to agree.
I too am an Indian, Native American, whatever…I’m a member of the Salish Kootenai confederated tribe. I married a white guy. I was discriminated against by the rez Indians for that. I am discriminated by the white people for being Indian (when up in MT).
When in FL…everyone assumed I was Cuban and spoke Spanish to me.
Now living in AZ, I will giggle if I get discriminated for looking illegal. Guess I better avoid getting pulled over or doing anything law breaking.
Point is I have been discriminated against and had my feelings DELIBERATELY hurt on purpose.
People are always going to be hurtful, discriminating and judgemental for one reason or another. In high school it was clothes. For me at work, it’s being a woman in a male oriented field. Worry about the people that will discriminate against the children for being Indian. This comes from years of experience because I felt the same way when I was young.
Life is too short to worry about small details, there’s enough meanness to worry about on a daily basis and you can obsess about it or thrive in the love and glow of the good.
Learn to pick your battles and what to get upset about (directed towards yesterday’s commentator). People are always going to be hurting your feelings. The ones that do it deliberately suck. The others that do it unintentionally…then decide if that’s a battle worth fighting for. Realize you can only control your own reaction and feelings.
I personally love the irony of dressing up as an Indian at Halloween. Or ahem, for the pleasure of my hubby. It’s a costume. That’s it. I don’t think you were politically incorrect at all Heather. Apologize for hurting feelings and nothing more.
.-= Lisa´s last blog ..For your viewing pleasure =-.
Candi says:
I’ve not read through all of the comments, but here is my take:
It doesn’t matter who or what you are, someone will always find something to mock you for.
I am a “white” American, but I am fat. Should I get offended when people dress up like fat people? I don’t. I am who I am and I’m learning to accept that. People make fat jokes all the time. Does this mean they are making fun of me? I guess I should be offended, but I’m not.
On top of that, although I am “white” my great-grandmother is 50% Native American. What you see isn’t always what you get.
Debbie says:
Here’s my take on it, thought: do we, as people of privilege, get to decide what people who are not privileged should like and not like?
Do I get to tell you, if you are a “fat” person, that you’re not allowed to feel hurt if I mock your size?
I don’t think it works that way. When we are privileged we have a responsibility to be respectful of others’ feelings. To listen to them and to learn to be kinder.
Candi says:
But to me that is the point, Debbie. We shouldn’t let these things hurt us. To me it should work that way. Not that I get to tell people how to feel, but that people should learn not to take such offense to everything. That was the point I was trying to make.
I feel that I am a very kind, considerate person. I truly do take people’s feelings into account. However, I still feel that people should not take offense to every little thing.
I don’t doubt for a minute that discrimination is still out there, but my point is that it comes in many forms. You can’t say that because one is “white” they’ve never felt discrimination.
And for the record, to me, being “white” does not make you privileged.
Debbie says:
But, in a way, isn’t arguing that people should learn not to take such offense to every “little” thing the same as telling them how to feel?
I agree that a white person can also face discrimination. I was raised in a severely impoverished home. Wore the same clothes every day as a kid, ate food from food banks, often didn’t bring lunch to school and often didn’t eat breakfast in the morning. So, I was affected negatively by class privilege in spite of the fact that I’m white. But I never experienced racial discrimination.
There are layers of privilege and we might see a racialized person with a high income privileged over a non-racialized person with a low income. We might also see the reverse because in our world, sometimes race matters more than anything else.
But I think it’s a little gross that people on this thread are saying that they’re white and they’ve been discriminated against. It’s possible that it has happened, but it’s kinda like a supermodel complaining about how fat her thighs are, don’t you think?
Candi says:
I can see that this will just go round and round. I guess that is what happens when we all have our own opinions and feelings.
I believe 100% that “white” people can and have been discriminated against.
I grew up in the 80s with a single dad. It was not common back then and for sure I was discriminated against. My parents divorced when I was 3. Because of their actions, I have been discriminated against. I am automatically judged because a child from a “broken home” can’t possibly amount to much (not to mention I’ll never be in a good, committed relationship—forget the fact that this year I’ll be happily married for 19 years!!). I dropped out of school and got my GED, so I must be a no good, lazy person. Or wait, there goes that “broken home” theory!
I get that what is little to some may not be little to others, but we can all learn not to let what others say to/about us tear us down. Then you have actions. I understand that discrimination isn’t always words but very hateful, cruel actions.
To me, discrimination is discrimination. To have to analyze it and determine if one case was worse than another and yours wasn’t as bad, so it can’t possibly be discrimination is disturbing.
Candi says:
By the way….that was supposed to be married 10 years, not 19!!
Jen says:
You face conflict with grace and dignity. It’s one of the first things I noticed about you.
Sam_I_Am says:
In this case, I am also offend when people dress up like cave people, because they are part of my heritage too. I’m also offended when people dress like hippies bc my mom was in her 20s during the 70s and she didn’t dress like that.
Personally attacking an individual bc she is dressed in a media-portrayed Native American costume is SOOO misguided. If she’s that offended, then is she harassing Disney, bc Pocahantas was dressed the same way.
Allyson says:
I have found this discussion interesting for a multitude of reasons. First, I somewhat resent the idea that “white” people don’t suffer discrimination. I’m not talking about politically-fueled claims of so-called reverse discrimination. I’m talking about the stories my grandmother told me about what it was like to be an Italian immigrant in Pennsylvania (or New York or a multitude of other places) in the 1930s and 1940s. Dago…wop: words with origins so many people have forgotten, but that I know stung my family as deeply as other words sting other cultures. I know how fortunate I am and my children are now that we don’t have slurs thrown at us anymore, that we aren’t discriminated against because of our heritage. But my “white” family, wasn’t always that fortunate.
Nor has my Native American family been. We are certain that my mother is descended from Canadian Indians. But we have no record because her own father was so ashamed of his own heritage. Any connection we have to that part of our history is gone. So I don’t have the privilege of being able to consider myself First Nation or Native American or anything else because my own grandfather robbed me of that.
My husband’s grandfather, who looks just as “white” as anyone I know, was moved from the white school to the segregated school when the administration found out he had a Cherokee grandparent–the only relative he had who was of Native American descent. The vast majority of his heritage lays claim in Alabama. They fought on the Confederate side of the Civil War. And yet none of that history mattered after one Native American entered his family.
It’s easy to find offense in things if you’re looking for it. But I think if you are willing to believe in the fundamental goodness of people, it’s a lot harder to find. We all have chips on our shoulders. It’s just a matter of whether we choose to see past them.
.-= Allyson´s last blog ..Relief =-.
Kelley says:
I had a comment I was going to write, but I don’t want to start more controversy. I’ll just say that you did all that you could and if people are offended, they can just click away. *hugs*
.-= Kelley´s last blog .. =-.
Leah says:
I recall hearing that some Native Americans *prefer*/have reappropriated the term “Indian.” I feel for your commenter because I am a privileged WASP married to a Jewish man, and once it became clear we’d get married, have kids, and raise them Jewish I suddenly started seeing anti-Semitism everywhere. There’s a certain zealotry-of-the convert thing going on in both cases. I’m not Jewish and your commenter is not Native American but by virtue of having kidsd with these identities and having to think about these issues we’re suddenly sensitized and, in reality, probably over-sensitized. As is reflected in the comments above, people who grew up having to think about these issues weren’t even phased by your costume. It’s kind of like your commenter moved to a new neighborhood and immediately appointed herself president of the block association. I speak as one who know!
mara says:
its your blog, right?? and this is all about YOU, your husband and your girls. say whay you wish. you were in no way bashing anyone. just simply having a dress up session w/ annie
Amy says:
I just wanted to say I am proud Native American and I do not take offense to being called an Indian… I do take offense of someone saying me being born a N.A. is something Tragic, obviously that person does not take pride in who she is.
ThePeachy1 says:
I am still trying to figure out how to make you that costume I said I would. It’s gonna be tuff… It may involve duct tape. I love you even more for the way you handled everything. Can I be you when I grow up?
E says:
While heritage is something to be proud of, last time I checked plenty of people have been killed or died as a result of their race/ethnicity/heritage (deaths from murder simply fueled by hatred as well as other issues, such as a lack of medical care available to certain populations or other discriminatory (subversive or outright) practices).
Lindsey says:
YES, THANK YOU. How many Native Americans were killed when we came to this country and decided we were the superior race? How many were oppressed and forced to live on reservations?
Kathy says:
I think that when the commentor said “tragic reality” she was referring to premature babies and “appropriating a historical dress” was of course the wig.
The way I read it she wasn’t refering to her children’s race as a tragic reality.
Debbie says:
Or, she could have meant tragic reality as being the reality that privileged folks have created for racialized folks – one in which the racialized are othered and less than. The tragic reality is not having a certain racial identity, but rather the meanings that privileged society places on that identity.
Kristy says:
Maybe this is my age (25) or my upbringing (White upper middle class), but I don’t see how a Native American costume is disrespectful. I really don’t understand. What about all the little boys who dress up as Native Americans on Halloween? Is this woman chasing down those little boys and telling them they are not politically correct? I don’t agree with equating race with a premature birth and baby. I don’t see how they are even similarly related. Those are two different realities. You weren’t being malicious in your intent. You weren’t trying to offend anyone. It is a common perception of Native Americans, but I don’t see it as insensitive. I don’t see race as a “tragic reality” either. Again, maybe this is because of MY race. I also believe, wholeheartedly, that society is too quick to pull the racist card. My daughter when she was a bit younger asked me a question about African American (is that term PC?) when we were out in public. You would have sworn she said something massively offensive (it was the normal question that all little children ask, why is he darker than me?). I think for racism to end, we have to stop making distinctions between them: African American, Chinese American, Native American. You can keep your heritage, there is nothing wrong with that. But what is wrong with just saying, “I am American?” Seriously? Is it that shameful? I don’t care about your race, gender, sexual orientation or whatever else we are categorizing people by, if you are a decent person, with a decent heart, then you are fine by me. But again, maybe this is my age and upbringing speaking.
Lindsey says:
The fact is though we do not yet live in a post racial society so saying “we should pretend we’re all the same and stop making distinctions between the races” JUST WOULDN’T WORK. There are still racist people in this world and there is still racial undertones in a lot of decisions and snap judgments that are made so we all need to RECOGNIZE those (like the fact that a Native American costume might be offensive to some people) before we can fix this issue.
http://www.case.edu/president/aaction/UnpackingTheKnapsack.pdf
Diane V says:
The problem, as always, is that anyone can take offense to anything said or done by anyone and it generally is a reflection of the prejudices of the person taking offense NOT the person who is the supposed offender.
I (a very pale-skinned blonde) volunteered at an African American Men of Unity Juneteenth event last year because my employer would donate $500 to the charity if 5 associates volunteered. Four of the five of us were white (and the only white people at the event) and we helped with the set-up and serving of food to the hundreds who attended the event. Unfortunately, there was a table of elderly African-American women who took offense and could be loudly heard protesting “I don’t want no white girl serving me food.” They actually had someone else come up and get their food because they could not deal with us (white girls) waiting on them.
So who should have been offended them (their charity was getting $500 and 5 volunteers for 3 hours) or us (volunteering on a Saturday night in June)?
We chose to ignore the table of racists and enjoy helping out a charity on a beautiful Saturday night. The racists who were so offended left early because they couldn’t stand us being a part of the celebration.
So, Heather, just ignore the people who choose to be offended.
jessica b says:
i love this comment because it seems that the “minorities” are very unaware of how the table shave turned in the last 10 years. I have encountered, as a white woman, more racism towards me from said minorities than I have seen in the opposite direction. The minorities of the 1950s want everyone to dwell on the terrible treatment that thier races received but those same people are very blind to the fact that white people are now being treated (not in all cases but many) poorly. FYI, there are more programs and funding/help out there for “minorities” than there are for average white people. So sadly, being a single white mother who works full time and struggles to pay the bills gets no help, while specific minorities in the exact same situation have government/financial help thrown at them from every direction. and YES, i have experienced this first hand as have many many many others like me.
SO anyway, it’s nice to see that someone has acknowledged the opposite effect of what everyone else has been arguing about.
Shylah says:
Long time reader, first time commenter. I haven’t read all the comments, so forgive me if I’m repeating what someone else already said.
I am white and middle-class, but that doesn’t mean I haven’t experienced discrimination. As someone who used to tip the scales at 355 lbs., I know all too well how it feels to be discriminated against. To assume that because I am white and middle-class, I know nothing about how it feels to be marginalised and trivialised is arrogant and wholly presumptuous.
Additionally, Native Americans participate in Pow-Wows all the time. They wear traditional dress, do traditional dances, and play traditional music. They do these things and invite all the terrible, ignorant white-middle-classers to attend. They even SELL things like jewelry, moccasins, and traditional-looking clothing. It’s difficult for me to believe that Native Americans in general are offended by WMCs “pretending to be them” when they promote it by selling their stuff.
At the one we regularly attend, they invite the children to come in and learn some of their dances. Is my third-grader making fun of them by dancing along behind a boy in full native dress? Of course not, because she’s been taught to respect their culture and is interested in learning a little more about it. To say that one is trivialising an entire culture by wearing a braided wig is ridiculous and shows your own ignorance and prejudice.
.-= Shylah´s last blog ..Four years =-.
Kelli says:
I think the real problem here is that Rick James is mad that you stole his beaded wig. In all seriousness I love your blog. I am 23 years old, have no children, but I still connect with your wonderful writings. I only hope that my babies will be as half as beautiful as yours! This woman needs to get over it. I thought the pictures were hilarious and I showed them to my mom, sister, and boyfriend and we all got a good laugh out of them. We laughed at how silly little Maddie looked in them; we didn’t even think twice about the historical significance of the wig because, honestly, IT’S A WIG. I could totally see this woman terrorizing the streets on Halloween lecturing parents of little girls in Pocohantas costumes. Insane.
Kelli says:
duhh i obviously meant annie! i read all of the comments before mine and maddie got stuck in my head
Courtney says:
Heather. You are amazing. I never thought twice about what you have said ever. It’s your opinion and I respect that from you. I love your honesty and I think you handled this beautifully!
.-= Courtney´s last blog ..Letters to Juliet =-.
Jeannine says:
Heather,
I’ve been a daily reader for over a year now and I think you’re just wonderful. As always, I think you handled this tricky situation with incredible tact and grace.
My best friend and I both dressed up in second grade as Pocahontas for Halloween. She herself is fully Native, and her mom encouraged us and even helped me with my costume.
Growing up in a diverse city, I never even thought of people being seen as different until I was taught about race and racism in school. I’m not trying to minimize any struggles that people have had due to their backgrounds, but race is only an issue when people make it one.
On another note, I think that bringing preemies into this is completely appalling.
Even if she didn’t intend to be offensive, she was.
After a rocky start, my brother suddenly passed away at 10.5 months due to the complications of being born premature.
A year later, I was born 9 weeks early. The only reason I’m alive (and my brother lived as long as he did) is because of the wires and tubes she describes in her preemie stereotype. Minimizing the struggles that preemies and preemie parents go through is, to me, terrible.
Sorry if any of my ramblings are irrelevant. I tend to get flustered rather easily.
JMK says:
OMG…I’m going to get a million negative comments because last Halloween I dressed my son up as Bob the Builder (obviously discriminating against the working class), my daughter was a cheerleader (against all the work feminist have done for my rights) and my other son was a bear (probably an endangered species).
My point is…people should lighten up. Not every situation involves white people trying to defame or insult minorities. My best friend is a redhead but she doesn’t take offense when people dress up as Raggedy Ann. Especially in Heather’s case, it is just a costume.
Micaela says:
I’m 17 and many of my friends dressed up in a native american costume this past halloween. there really isnt anything racist against it, it’s a costume. It’s cute. & It’s Halloween. If anything, it should make a N.A feel good, someone wants to dress like them!
This reader went way over with the preemie talk, they dont relate at all.
Lindsay from Florida says:
Have you read some of the responses in this thread about why it does NOT make every Native American “feel good”? This post and its many comments have the ability to be extremely eye-opening, if we as Heather’s readers choose to make it so.
Mary @ Holy Mackerel says:
I also don’t think you were being at all disrespectful by wearing that costume or talking about it. I think many people are way too touchy and are willing to make a mountain out of nothing.
And, I’d also like to say that I think every single one of us is discriminated against in one way or another, at some point in our lives. I know I was because I was geeky: very skinny and very tall, and I wore glasses. Or what about computer whizzes, or people who don’t do all that well in school? People are “judged” by others all the time. Whether we like it or not.
.-= Mary @ Holy Mackerel´s last blog ..It’s About Damn Time. You’re Right, And I’m Sorry. Now Do You Feel Better? Didn’t Think So. =-.
Andrea says:
I’m so sorry someone wrote that comment. No matter how you spin it, it was hateful, and hatefulness towards premie babies, that is a whole new low. I’m sorry too that she was offended but the difference is that you meant no harm in posting those pictures and you apologized. Any valid point she had about being sensitive and respectful was covered in insensitive hurtfulness and disrespect.
Dawn @ What's Around the Next Bend? says:
I find it interesting that she got all up in arms when she thought you deleted her comment, yet she follows that same precedent at her blog.
Please know that many of us out here support you Heather. Wigs are great for a good laugh and make-believe. Don’t go changing yourself!
.-= Dawn @ What’s Around the Next Bend?´s last blog ..The List =-.
eliza says:
I don’t have anything insightful or helpful to add as it has all been said. I think this issue is a no brainer and you’ve handled it with dignity and grace as usual. But I do want to say I’m sorry you had to read that distorted and graphic comment about preemies. Despicable. Period.
Patty B says:
Heather:
You continue to amaze me! Your tact in light of the despicable comments about preemies says quite a lot about who you are as a person, and I applaud you. Bravo!
Heidi says:
The preemie description was disgusting and uncalled for. That was hitting below the belt.
IMO, people take things entirely too seriously and they need to relax.
They have a right to comment and say they are offended, but why take it to that next level? Uncalled for really.
.-= Heidi´s last blog ..Me, the Husband, & OCD =-.
Stacy says:
Heather,
I just want to send you a HUGE hug and say that you continuously amaze me. I think the way you handled this shows just what a classy woman you are. Bravo! Annabel has an excellent role model of what a strong, caring, couragious, generous, classy woman is.
Alicia @bethsix says:
Very gracious and balanced. We’re all human. Hugs to you.
.-= Alicia @bethsix´s last blog ..Happy Birthday, Archer Gene =-.
Rhonda says:
It’s a friggin costume for god’s sake!! Jeez!! I bet that woman wouldn’t say that crap to your face!! For her to talk about your babies was a sign that that @#%% is friggin’ crazy!! I always thought it was something to be proud of to be able to say you were part Native American(Indian). Sorry, not PC…. Everybody gets there GD feelings hurt over every friggin’ thing it’s no wonder everybody is on somekind of drug to help them cope with the reality that not everyone is going to like you or want you to be a part of their lives or whatever. This is USA you can do or be anything here. Discrimination or not! I’m white but, know, work and share my life with people of many different races, colors and what not…get over your whiney ass self, for your children’s sake and just let them know, that there is ignorance and people will say and do things that will hurt your feelings and get over it!! Help educate those who will be helped and then get the hell over it!!!!! Ugh!! I’m not ever and hate that anybody has to feel guilty about being white! Does that lady live and work and has her family flourished here in the good ole USA?? GET OVER IT!! I know I too, sound a little crazy and I am. haha!! This is just really irritating that she couldn’t look at a costume without getting her feelings hurt..Ugh!! How do people like her function at all, and her kids will definately be discriminated against if their Mother is always wanting people to feel sorry for her little Native Americans. Ok, gonna stop now.
Nanette says:
You are a kind and tactful woman. You’ve handled this perfectly.
I’m proud to be your friend.
.-= Nanette´s last blog ..Star Ems =-.
Katie C. says:
I almost vomited when I read how she described a precious premature baby. I miscarried – at home – to a 3 1/2 month unborn baby – who was the most beautiful and perfect little creature I have ever seen in my life. I was scared at first to touch my little one, and then realized that this was my child. No matter how tiny, that is our CHILD. My baby had died in my womb, but the beauty of my child will live on in my heart forever. I take huge offense to that disgusting portrait she painted. She should be ashamed of herself. You dressing your baby up in a Native American headdress is not offensive. No more offensive than if you had dressed her up in a little kilt or a sari or any other ethnic dress. You weren’t making fun of anything. SHE was making fun of how beautiful children look when they are born prematurely. What a hideous person. I give you such credit for pointing this out and taking her to task for this. I also give you credit for not wanting this chick to get flamed, because I wouldn’t have that sort of composure.
You didn’t do anything wrong, Heather. You are a lovely person, and I enjoy your blog. I can understand her point about saying “Native American” and not “Indian” or whatever – but she crossed so far over the line that the line is not even in sight anymore.
Charlene says:
I am Blackfeet – or Native American, or Indian, or American Indian and I thought the picture was cute. I am not overly sensitive and did not see anything wrong with your entire post that day. I live in this world, am discriminated against, but also have a sense of humor. Please don’t take what she said to heart and realize that many of us Native’s read your blog and love it the way it is!!! Don’t allow one naysayer to change the way you write – don’t overthink your blog posts – Blog on!!
“Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain.. and most fools do.” — Dale Carnegie
Mitzi says:
I agree well said… I wish I was that articulate but I’m just mad.
Kayla N. says:
Heather, go on with your bad self! I am so impressed every time I read this blog by how much dignity you handle yourself with. Whatever point she was trying to make was ruined by her description of premie babies, something that was obviously done to hurt you, whatever her claims.
MLP says:
I swear, it seems as though people get soooo offended easily these days. Its so annoying. This person clearly needs to relax a little. But to have to go there….it is so wrong! I honestly didnt see anything wrong with it…and I am sure a lot of people didnt either.
Tracy says:
I’ve no respect for someone that needs to make their point by being monstrously cruel to other people – both helpless babies and their parents – I mean really? REALLY? What kind of person (MOTHER) says awful things like that about tiny sick babies?
She got her 15 seconds of fame….drove the hits up on her blog. I hope she’s proud.
Mitzi says:
That woman is horrible. I am also of native american heritage and when I saW your picuture I though nothing of it….. I am also a premmi born at 32 weeks. I have pictures of myself in an icubator with those said tubes. She is an idiot if she is trying to make this blog into a political forum. This blog is about maddie, and mike and you and annie and everyone who loves your family. I am ashamed of her comments and she should be too. She should take her political jargon elswhere and get off our blog.. even though I know its not mine but I feel protective over your familly,…. so HEY hateful lady.,… i hope you read this,… get out of here, were about preemiature birth prevention, intervention, and preemie care education… not INDIAN rights, yes I said INDIAN… SO GET OUT OF HERe, AND TAKE YOUR POLITICAL and HATEFUL JUNK ELSEWHERE……
Emese says:
Up until 3 days ago I would have never believed people could be THAT insensitive about preemie babies.
Here is my quick story about what happened to me 3 days ago. My sister’s boyfriend made a comment to my sister about my son, Jake’s, picture I had up on facebook. Jake was born @ 30 weeks and weighed 3lbs 9oz and had the wires and the whole bit. This is what he said: “I can’t believe your sister would put up such a gross picture for all her friends to be forced to see.” She asked “what are you talking about?” He responded; “That picture your sister(ME) has up of her son when he was first born..it’s gross no one wants to see that” This is when my eyes swelled up with tears. She said “That is my nephew and that picture is a little miracle, he survived and is a healthy 9 year old boy and my sister is trying to raise awareness and money for March of Dimes, so yes she has that picture up to show people how small and fragile he was there is NOTHING gross about it” My son (today) TOTALLY looks up to this guy… he is a minor league ball player, and right now Jake’s dream is to someday be in the pros. The sad thing is I encouraged Jake to look up to him, he has always been very nice to my whole family…After a 3 years in a relationship…they have now broken up…
I love my sister for sticking up for us, but I can’t help but think is this just someone being extremely naive? Like I said, he has always been such a nice guy, and has taken time out to work on pitching with Jake, (which he still talks about, he obviously doesn’t know about any of this). I kinda want to talk to him but I am SOOOO angry!
I don’t know how you do it, how you maintain your composer through all the hurtful comments people leave.
Lindsey says:
Sorry Heather, but I read her first comment and the ones that followed and I’m not surprised that she responded with that. I understand that it hurt you but she was being ATTACKED after a fairly innocent first comment and I think she was replying in a manner that was trying to make you understand what it would feel like since, as white women, we will never truly understand.
Some of the commenters in that other post made me sick to my stomach and I almost wanted to take you off my google reader, but I know you weren’t necessarily endorsing those opinions.
I linked to this in the other post but I think it’s a good read for anyone interested in further educating themselves on the subject:
http://www.case.edu/president/aaction/UnpackingTheKnapsack.pdf
Lindsey says:
And I should say that I don’t think her saying that was right. Obviously preemie babies is something that is near and dear to your hear and she shouldn’t have gone to such a hurtful place but maybe, just maybe, being Native American is near and dear to her heart and she sees it as hurtful as well.
Heather says:
I don’t condone attacking people for differing beliefs. But just so you’re clear on the time line, no one replied to her first comment until she went *there* with the second.
Lindsey says:
Okay I didn’t know that and it’s very good to know. I don’t think the second comment of hers was at all warranted but the comments from some of your other readers (Kristel especially) made me so upset I couldn’t see straight.
Thanks for the reply.
Sarah Denley says:
The comparison would be valid if her children had actually died or come near death because of their race. If white people were still massacring Native Americans it would be a valid point. As it stands, it is not.
.-= Sarah Denley´s last blog ..Just Floored =-.
Misty says:
yeah ummm…someone up there compared dressing up as a Native American to dressing up as a KKK member…really? REALLY?!
Katy says:
Heather, I think you are very thoughtful and handled the situation quite well. My issue was with some of your commenters last week.
That being said, IMO, “tragic reality” of race is more indicative to the long and painful history of racism towards minorities. A tragic reality of race is well illustrated when referring to lynchings, reservations, Jim Crow, etc. The philosophy behind the costume-like appearance of Native dress, is that it was used and exaggerated to create a difference between Aboriginal people and Settlers. When highlighting differences between groups, it helps to foster a “group think” of s vs. them.
These were tactics used to rationalize stealing land from Native Americans, as well as slaughtering them because they were “savages”. Exaggerated cartoons with the “red man” donning feathers, saying “How” and “Me scalp em white man” help to cultivate a culture of fear and intolerance.
.-= Katy´s last blog ..You Just Might Be a Moron If……. =-.
kathy says:
It’s really easy to think there’s no tragedy associated with racial/ethnic background when you belong to the dominant race.
Amie says:
Maybe I’m just dumb but I don’t really understand how dressing up like another nationality is automatically considered disrespectful. The wig wasn’t disparaging so why is the immediate assumption that one would wear it in a mocking way or to cast a negative light on Native American people. Couldn’t a costume be worn to show respect? Admiration? Interest?
Maybe there’s validity in being offended by your use of the word Indian but you went in immediately and changed that.
I don’t think readers should feel entitled to an apology for something you post on YOUR OWN BLOG. They should Comment if they are so inclined, say their piece, and move on. If their words inspire a change of heart, so be it. If they get an apology, accept it. If not, post on your own blog, people! Show outrage over your your opinions there. Don’t take it to a mean spirited place because you aren’t getting your way here.
Amanda says:
I believe, really, really believe, that “think” is an idea that gets misplaced in the future. We just do, do, do, say, say, say and then later we reflect. Wouldn’t it be great if we could approach everything by first considering, nothing more, just consider, dang, it’d be such a gentler world.
.-= Amanda´s last blog ..Angles of guile =-.
Jenna says:
You say you understand white privilege and why she was offended, but I really don’t think you don’t. I remember seeing your twitter that day and your comments were really disrespectful and you were dismissing her feelings. It seems like you’re backtracking now. Seriously, read up on white privilege and then get back to us.
Heather says:
Am I not allowed to take some time to regroup? I read those comments while I was in line to pick up Madeline’s death certificate. That’s the reality I am faced with every day – my dead child. Instead of writing this post that night, I waited a week so my feelings could go back into calm territory, and I could look at things rationally. Might I suggest reading up on living with grief? Let me know what you find.
Krystal says:
Heather I cant even imagine what it must have been like to read those comments while in line to get Maddie’s death certificate. And I think it was very wise of you to take the time to wait until writing this post.
Jenna I also read Heathers comments that day on twitter and did not find them disrespectful. It was her being outraged and astounded that someone would even attempt to make that comparison between racism and prematurity.
rosie too says:
Yes, racism exists. And challenging long held assumptions can be a good thing. The problem, Jenna, is that a willingness to throw around names like racist at the first whiff of offense stifles our ability to have a meaningful and educational dialogue. I am incredibly liberal, but am exhausted at the political correctness police who cause people to be so fearful of being tagged racist that we lose important opportunities to gain perspective and learn more about each other. Heather is trying to do that here. She has given a very clear (and repeated) apology. And while I understand why the reader was initially offended, I do NOT understand why her being offended is a justifiable excuse for offensive, intentionally hurtful vitriol.
Aunt Becky says:
It’s interesting that the things that I always say that offend people are NEVER the things that I think will. Calling my kids “crotch parasites?” Cracks people up every time.
One time I referred to my former manager Sergio as Mexican, something you couldn’t be around him for more than .4 seconds before he himself would point out proudly and I got my head chewed off. Sergio was Mexican, I was that White Girl Becky.
I didn’t do it derogatorily, I didn’t do it rudely, and really, it was a statement of fact, like “Mommy Wants Vodka.” Sergio would approve if he read my blog because he was PROUD of his heritage.
Made me think twice about what I say and what will piss people off in the future. Apparently, nothing I expect.
.-= Aunt Becky´s last blog ..It’s Clear That My Brilliance Is Better When Someone Else Is Around To Witness It =-.
jessica b says:
I agree. No matter how hard you try to censor yourself, someone will find something that offends them.
Kristen says:
After reading that nasty comment(s) that was left I felt appalled and hurt at how rude and incensistive some people can be. I guess some poeple have no sense of humor . I feel for her children after what she wrote it is obvious she is a irrational person. I think as a parent a sense of humor is a must! It was very classy and mature how you handled that situation Annie is very lucky to have such a wonderful mommy!!
p.s I loooovvveeeee reading your blog
Rebecca says:
I’m so sorry you had to deal with such a horrible comment Heather. Didn’t she know where her little red browser X is?
I love how you have taken such a tight grip of what you’ve been given and how you have chosen to educate the public on how to overcome anything.
Because of reading about how you have overcome such HUGE obstacles, I have found strength to at least keep my head above the water in my own problems. Which are nothing at all compared to what you have and are going through. My son was born with and we continue to receive a new diagnosis almost yearly.
You give me strength Heather.
And the “Native American” costume was just that. A Costume! People play dress up all the time; French Maid, Egyptian, Knight, Astronauts, Doctors……….
What about the people who work for CBS or NBC or whoever……and they dress up to act in a movie or show or something? Is it because they are paid that they aren’t being disrespectful?
Keep on dressing up your beautiful baby and keep blogging! You are awesome!!
.-= Rebecca´s last blog ..Look What I Did =-.
Becky says:
I believe her comments were horrendous and feel she would have been better off voicing her concerns to you privately, through email. I am in no way making excuses for her…however, I don’t believe she meant to refer to anyones race as a “tragic reality”…I think she was saying “my point was to show that costuming one person’s tragic reality (meaning dressing as a preemie) is just as wrong as appropriating a historical dress (Indian costume) so disrespectfully and without even THINKING that its (sic) offensive to the person being portrayed.” I think she was relating the tragic reality to premature births, not race…I thought the same as you the first time I read it, but I read and re-read it many times and finally got it…I think…
Olivia says:
I truthfully don’t think that using the term ‘Indian’ is insulting. Nor is it to dress up like one. Indians are proud of their heritage and the name that comes along with that. I grew up next to an Indian Reservation my entire life, and some found it insulting to be called Native Americans. Being an Indian is their heritage and a source of great pride.
People need to relax.
Tammy Cleveland says:
You have got to be kidding!!!! She got that tore up about a costume??!! Because that is all it was-a costume. She needs to chill out.
Laurie says:
This is such a classic case of self-imposed victimization, Heather. This person is and always will be a victim because she choses to be. For every valid reason you come up with as to why she crossed the line and that you meant no harm whatsoever by wearing a HARMLESS costume…the only thing that woman will ever hear is ‘blah blah blah”. I refer to them as ‘ya-but’ers”. She doesn’t want a solution — and will always come at you with a ‘ya but’. Don’t waste your time — continue on and don’t hesitate for a second to post pictures with that wig/costume and anything else you have. Heather, you are kind, always considerate and NEVER politically incorrect. That chick needs to get over her insecurities and nothing you can do will help!
Jason says:
I completely agree that the comment about premie babies was out of line and completely unnecessary but I think people are really skirting the real issue by saying they weren’t offended by your choice of costume. I think what all this boils down to is that people want to be acknowledged for their unique struggles as individuals but also as distinctive groups within society. Heather, you want to give voice to parents, families and friends of premies (and premies themselves, as they grow), just as the commenter wants to give voice to Native Americans and their families and friends. People who have never experienced the pain of having a premie baby (and then watching it die) won’t really ever understand that pain. Just as non-Native Americans may never understand how painful it is to watch your culture be sublimated and your history mocked and erased. Your baby died because she was a premie. Lots of Native Americans died too — at the hands of white Europeans who erased their culture and brutalized their people.
In Canada, First Nations people suffer immensely. In many ways, their race is a tragic reality. They suffer from alcoholism and drug abuse. They commit suicide at a much higher rate than the rest of the population. They are more likely to develop diabetes and obesity. Their rural communities lack clean water and basic housing. The race, in so many ways, IS a tragic reality. I don’t believe First Nations in Canada should define themselves by this tragic reality, just as you, Heather, won’t define yourself as an eternal victim, who lost your child. No, instead, both groups will stand up and fight for what they believe in. Saying one struggle is so much worse than another never gets us anywhere.
Did you mean any of this to happen by dressing up as a Native American? No, of course not. Are you a bad person? Definitely not. But these are discussions we need to have.
Talia says:
I agree with you totally – people are so quick to judge the original commentor because of her insensitive comments about preemies, that the heart of the issue of discussion (on THIS post – the originals, i believe, were about bald babies and wigs) is being lost.
The truth is, no one wants to be dismissed…to say “who cares about a stupid costume??” is dismissive to those who DO care. Personally it doesn’t really bother me, but I’m not going to pass judgement on people who are affected and offended, because they probably have a reason to be. The dialogue we CAN create here could be about that, but so far its been mostly about making the original commentator feel bad about the things she said. I’m guessing she deos feel bad that she offended so many people, even if she still feels like it was the best way to get her point accross.
Debbie says:
She definitely crossed a line with the description, but she has a point. Your child died because she was born premature, and many children and adults have been discriminated against, hurt, or killed because they were born racialized. That’s what makes race a “tragic reality” – the fact that people in power have used it against others as a justification for heinous things.
Just like “blackface,” (remember the Harry Connick Jr. on Aussie TV thing a while ago?) the “indian” costume is offensive because it reasserts all of the old mockeries that went hand in hand with the heinous acts that have harmed racialized people for centuries.
Do I think that you intended to hurt anyone when you wore the costume? Absolutely not, you clearly have an open mind about it and made a mea culpa about the costume. Do I think that the commenter crossed a line? Absolutely. But just as babies have died because of prematurity, many, many people have died because we live in a society that has mocked race for centuries.
I kinda feel like you crossed a line, too, in this apology post by saying that her example was worse than what you did. You’re privileging your pain over others’ pain.
The situations aren’t identical, of course, but comparisons are silly. You hurt her in relation to a subject that is very, very tender for many, many people, and she retaliated by trying to show you why it hurt using an example from your life. She should have been more careful, but I don’t think it’s fair to say that your pain trumps the pain of centuries of racial discrimination and all of its attendant abuses against millions of people. Treating all of that as a funny halloween punchline, well, that’s just as unfunny, just as awful as a preemie costume.
The difference is that we’ve been mocking First Nations peoples for centuries, so we’re used to it, sadly, but it’s never, ever been okay to laugh at suffering babies. Nor should it ever be. Neither should be okay. The “indian” costume should be as horrifying as the idea of a preemie costume.
You agree that neither is okay, the commenter made her point in an overly direct and blunt way. But it’s not such an off point.
I’m white and middle class myself, and so I can completely relate to the problems of ignorance that lead to situations like this – a while ago I said “chinzy” only to be informed that that is offensive to Indian people (from the actual country), and I also only realized how offensive “cotton pickin'” was as an insult until I realized what cotton picking actually WAS and its relationship to racism and slavery, on my own, YEARS after I had said it on a daily basis. I was horrified and ashamed of myself. So, no, I don’t think that it’s your fault that you didn’t know how hurtful the costume would be, I think that it’s our entire world’s fault that we don’t all know these things by now. That it was ever okay to begin with.
I think you’re great, Heather, and I hope that after all of this is hashed out that you can have a peaceful day. These sorts of things are why I stopped blogging. It becomes too stressful to have so many commenters discuss YOU with you.
Lindsey says:
I completely agree with this entire comment. Thanks.
Heather says:
Hmmm, I see your point. I definitely wasn’t trying to engage in the Pain Olympics- I despise that. I guess I was looking at it not from the historical angle, but as mothers to children with these two distinct issues. And to be honest, looking at it with jealousy – I wish I could have her problem, because that would mean my daughter was alive.
Does that makes sense?
Debbie says:
It does make sense, although I don’t know what it’s like to be where you are and I wish that Maddie was alive, too.
She was just trying to appeal to the mother in you by asking what if your child, who you love and think the world of, were treated as second class by the rest of the world? What if your child was mocked for something that she had no control over?
Her going there was hurtful, but I think that she saw parallels because of the historical side to her perspective.
I’m not a mom and I’m not racialized and I don’t know what it’s like to lose a child. All of it sucks. I wish you had Maddie and I wish that the commenter’s children could have a more sensitive world.
xo.
Anna says:
I’m a little curious to know if people who are getting upset over the racial indignities against Native Americans by you wearing that costume are actual Native Americans/Indians (I always just called myself a girl and didn’t worry about the race title) or if they are white people who feel like they need to stand up for the other races.
Debbie says:
As I said, I’m white. I don’t think that means I can’t share what I have learned through education and interaction with others.
There are several people of Native American dissent on this thread that have said they don’t care either way, and there are others who say they don’t.
But there are also black people who use the “N” word on a daily basis and women who have rape fantasies. Does that make rampant use of the “n” word and rape ok?
The consent/comfort of one with something that offends others doesn’t mean that everyone has to be comfortable with the thing.
Debbie says:
PS: Just as I think men can (and should) be feminists, white people can (and SHOULD) be anti-racist.
Lindsay says:
I read the original post, all of the comments on that post, and I’ve read all the comments up to here, and finally this comment helped my thoughts gain coherence.
“In her description of a preemie, she did the same thing she was accusing you of doing ” -yes.
“You’re privileging your pain over others’ pain.” -yes.
She deliberately chose an example that would be (in HER eyes) equally as offensive to you as your costume was to her. I think what she was trying to do was illustrate that her offended-ness was not “no big deal”, and to get you to see that, by causing you to feel the same, apparently very high, level of offense that she feels.
I suspect her thought process was something like this:
1) I have been mortally offended on behalf of my children.
2) I think my comment has been deleted, indicating that Heather thinks this is no big deal.*
3) This is a HUGE, LIFE-ABSORBING DEAL for me; what do I know about Heather that is huge and life-absorbing to her, particularly in relation to her children?
*[Yes, we all know now it wasn’t deleted, but I think most can agree that if she thought it had been, that would go a long way toward explaining, if not excusing, her impulsive tirade.]
What she did not think about was
1) That by trying to illustrate the point to you by giving you first-hand experience, she was becoming THAT person, the offensive hurtful person, that she was accusing you of being.
2) That while it was obvious [even to her] you were hurtful accidentally, out of ignorance, what she was doing was hurtful deliberately, and therefore her comparison was not equal.
3) That an insult to preemies would bring two levels of offense: personal offense that Maddie was being insulted, and also sorrow at the reminder of Maddie, losing her, and the horror of her time[s] in the hospital.
I personally cannot believe that any person’s racial identity, and offense at slights thereof, could possibly equal your sorrow in your loss.
At the same time, I DO think it’s possible that their level of offense at a [perceived] insulting racial stereotype could match your offense at their derogatory description of preemies. To say that it SHOULDN’T, is to trivialize their feelings. Is being sensitive about preemies more important than being sensitive to Native Americans, or GLBT, or handicapped people, or women, or short people, or skinny people, or blondes, or… What should I, or should I not, be allowed to get offended about?
In the US, it is considered politically correct/okay to mock, insult, or stereotype Christians, for example, but not okay to insult or stereotype other religions. It is becoming offensive in the US to mock fat people, but an extremely skinny person, offended when told that they need to eat more, is told to lighten up.
I don’t like being told which things we’re allowed [required?] to be sensitive about, and which things are really not a big deal and we just need to “get over it” and not be offended about.
Frankly, I wish that Americans as a group would be a little more thick skinned, give others the benefit of the doubt a little more often – and although I think political correctness is an elusive ideal, I do think we could all work on counting to ten, directing radical statements privately IF they need to be made at all, and not using deliberately inflammatory language.
Yes, I’ll say it: can’t we all just get along?
And a last note – for those who are mocking the commenter for defending on behalf of her children, I dare you to visit Tanis (http://www.theredneckmommy.com/2010/03/05/why-you-shouldnt-use-the-r-word/ and http://www.theredneckmommy.com/2009/03/10/dear-internet-im-placing-you-on-notice/) and try and defend that whole “mothers don’t need to be offended on their kids’ behalf” schtick. Yeeeah. Good luck with that.
Debbie says:
Go Lindsay! This is the best comment on this thread, in my opinion.
RE/ the Christian mocking? I mock Christians and Mormons mercilessly, behind their backs. Reason for that is that I was raised as a mennonite, then converted to mormonism at 19, then became agnostic at 25. I wonder if the majority of people who mock Christianity were affiliated with it in some way as they grew up, and so in a way it’s like mocking a former version of themselves. That’s what it’s about for me, anyways.
christina says:
100% agree. Thanks for articulating this better than I could.
Deb Hauer says:
Ok…. I have been the victim of racial comments and actions by others and I am white. I was explaining a situation I was in one time to a fellow co worker whos reply was….”it must have been a ********* thing.” (I will not include the race of this coworker as I do not want to offend anyone.) My reply was “it must have been a white thing then because it was against me”. I don’t know why race has to be brought into things when it had nothing to do with race. I understand there are cruel people out there and cruel things are said and/or done to others. It doesn’t mean that everything said or done is about race. We are all the same race….HUMAN. Let’s start treating each other that way. I have had some awful experiences due to being white at times in my life but I keep on going with that fact that we are all human and we all deserve respect. I have friends and family from all different races and I love that fact. I love learning about other cultures. I have been to American Indian traditional events as a child and I had a lot of fun. It is an awesome experience to learn about others and while there they allowed me to try on some of their attire. I hope that we can all have a better view on life after events like this.
Heather, you are a strong woman even when you don’t feel it. I am a loyal follower of your blog and I hope you don’t feel hesitant to post what you want to as this is YOUR blog. If others don’t like it they should not follow it. I have read other blogs that I didn’t care for and my solution was to not view them again. Good lesson for those easily offended. Keep up the awesome work you are doing Heather and Mike!
Trista says:
So…I also have Native American to my heritage. A LOT more than most. As in my grandfather was Full Cherokee. So, I guess that makes me roughly 1/4 …American Indian. And I am going to say INDIAN because, well…I can. I am the pot and I am calling the kettle black.
I was not insulted by your post. In fact, I never even considered it. Ever. Til now. And you know what? I am still not insulted. I mean…if you put on that wig and went running through streets screaming and carrying a fresh scalp while mike chased you with gun screaming SAVAGE!!! GET OFF MY LAND!!…THEN, I might be offended.
But a wig that looks a like the way Indians are portrayed and belonged to a former Indian costume that was wore because Indian costumes, by nature are cool and sexy…Then whatever!
Sheesh…People need to get over themselves. We are a society of pansies anymore. It’s ridiculous.
.-= Trista´s last blog ..Overheard… =-.
Amy says:
SO MANY THINGS TO SAY…. just not the right words (or grace) to say them with. I have heard your apology in (almost) every comment you have made, which shows just how much class you have. And that definitely makes you the bigger person.
Just a question Heather… has the commentor made any attempt to contact you to apologize at all? Or to even say she understands now where you came from?
Tamara says:
I didn’t see the initial thread of comments. But being of American Indian descent i really don’t understand the harm in dressing up as a Indian for Halloween or other costume party. It was in good fun. Now had you been walking around as a Indian with scalps and kill the white people I could see how THAT could tick a person off…I dunno maybe I just like to worry about the actual people who are being mean and discriminating and not about silly little costumes…
Gotta say I have been a lurker on your blog for a long time now and this is the first comment I have written. Though I have shed many tears while reading it and have sent thousands of prayers your way…
.-= Tamara´s last blog ..The BEST Mothers Day weekend that EVER was! =-.
Dee Dee says:
Well, well, well has that young lady opened a can of worms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was sooooo uncalled for. I agree with you Heather, race is not a tragic injustice, we should be proud of our heritage. On the other hand, prematurity is tragic and heart breaking. How dare her attempt to compare the two! I have 4 mulatto children (white mother, black father for those who may not know what mulatto refers to) and yes there are cruel statements made to them but I also have 2 premature twins who survived thanks to much research that has been done over the years! Is it tragic they are mulatto? NO! Is it tragic they were born premature? Yes, they suffered numerous ailments, needle sticks and seperation from their mother and father after birth due to NICU care. Any sane person would realize there is no comparison to RACE & PREMATURITY! It has become a cruel reality that the anonymous nature of the internet makes people think they can say and do anything on the internet without their name or face being recognized. Heather you are a lot nicer than me! I would have left her blog reference available for all to view. She opened the door to the comments she would be getting. Sorry she was so cruel to you! And also thanks for referencing your twin brother, I never knew much about him and you shed some light on him. I have an aunt that moved 20 hours away from home due to the hostile environment bestowed upon her by her own mother and father due to her being gay. She and her partner have been together more than 20 years and they are both wonderful people. HUGS to you for such hatred you have to endure from faceless internet posters!!!!!!!!
Marti from Michigan says:
DeeDee – I’m sure your children are beautiful. The church I attend has many “mulatto” children in it. They are all so beautiful. Our pastor’s (who is white) daughter, (who is white), just had a baby who is racially mixed Black father, and he is absolutely beautiful, and our pastor loves his grandson dearly. Blessings to your lovely family!
Rhonda says:
Very nice!
CorningNY says:
This is totally off topic, but I just remembered a great children’s book that features a little girl named Annabel! It’s called No Flying in the House by Betty Brock.
http://www.amazon.com/Flying-House-Harper-Trophy-Books/dp/0064401308
Keep up the good work, Heather. Annabel is adorable!
Bridget says:
You know, a simple explanation of her hurt feeling would’ve been enough. Spell check wouldn’t have hurt either. :p The way she attacked was immature and hurtful. I think she could’ve made her point nicely and I know you would’ve responded. It’s a shame that it all had to go this way. I did see your original tweet about this and I saw both of her comments right away, back to back. I know they weren’t deleted either. BUT… as someone who monitors her comments and screens them, I would think she wouldn’t mind whether you posted them or not. She just had to keep writing. Her main goal, I believe, was to get you to see the political incorrectness of it and whether that was published or not shouldn’t have mattered.
Marti from Michigan says:
I don’t really know what to say to this – other than I support you Heather, Mike and Annabel. Sock it to them!
I love reading your blog and reading the responses. I also love seeing pictures of preemies, whether Maddie’s pictures or other babies – they are SO beautiful. I don’t want to get religious on you, but God knows what He is doing when He creates a baby – they are SO beautiful, no matter what gestational age they are. And every baby is an absolute miracle.
I happen to attend a church where anyone and everyone is accepted. We have ex-other religions, Blacks, Whites, Native Americans, Korean, Chinese, purple hair, pierced everything, tattooed everything, high Mohawk hair styles, you name it, they come to our church and ARE ACCEPTED unconditionally! That is the way it should be.
I’m sorry for this unkind comment you received.
Shannon Kieta says:
First of all, I don’t understand why she would think you were making fun of her heritage? Wearing that wig had absolutley NOTHING to do with her/ her children’s backgrounds. And the description was defineately hitting below the belt. Waaay to out of context. I see her making her point, but no need to use description of sick children fighting for their lives, her daughter/son was not sick nor premature, so how could she even begin to put herself in your shoes???? Let’s rationalize here people. It’s a blog, not World War II. Not sure why people need to scratch each other’s eye’s out in the process. Shouldn’t we have each others backs, instead? Hmmm?
.-= Shannon Kieta´s last blog ..Happy Birthday My Baby Boy! =-.
Melissa says:
I don’t even know how to respond to this. I really want to, but I’m anxious now about whether what I want to say will … I don’t even know how to say it.
Sometimes we refer to my friend, who is Navajo, as “Mexican” or “Latino” or “Chinese” – anything other than his actual race. Sometimes people refer to me as “Indian” or “Mexican” or “What are you, Japanese or somethin’?” We joke about it a lot, and no one takes offense. I make fun of my husband for being part German, for being part English, for being part French (I tell him that every ethnicity in the world hates at least one part of his ancestry!) Sometimes I tell him that he’s oppressing me, cause he’s white. Sometimes he tells me to go home to “my people” or “the motherland”. I don’t know how to explain it, but it’s all done with love and just silliness. My Navajo friend grew up on a reservation and is EXTREMELY proud of his heritage. But he also understands not to take offense at things that were said without meaning to offend. I’m the same way. When people say things like that to me, I understand that it’s not meant to be offensive, just silly.
Does this make me sound white privileged? I hope not. I’m not trying to sound that way. Also, I’m very much not white. And I didn’t grow up privileged…
One year, for Halloween, I dressed up as a royal bride from my mother’s country. One year, I dressed up as a hula girl, complete with coconut shell bra (I was maybe 9 years old, I think). Once, I wore a ‘fro and a silk shirt and pretended to be a 70’s disco dancer. None of that was meant to caricaturize those cultures – it was because I wanted to look pretty or cool, and those costumes made me feel that way.
On the other hand, I live in a place that has a lot of Brazilian immigrants – they’re also referred to as “Mexican” by people who don’t know better, and don’t care to know better. I’ve been called “Chink” or “brown girl”. Sometimes people, even my friends, will say “ching chong ching chang” to me, as though they’re parodying my language. To me, THAT is offensive. It’s offensive because it’s said with intent to offend, or intent to marginalize, or intent to harm in some way.
It’s hard to explain the difference.
It’s like the difference between calling your baby (the general “you”, not you specifically, Heather, and not specifically Annie) a “little chub-bub” or saying “gosh she’s fat”. One is said with … not love, necessarily, but with loving intent. The other is said to belittle.
That’s how I feel about racially sensitive topics, and the difference between what is offensive and what is not.
The way I feel about Heather’s pictures and words are that they were said lovingly, with good humor and good intentions. Not with intent to harm in any way, not parodying a culture, not belittling or marginalizing anything.
The thing that makes me the saddest here, other than the horrible reference to premature babies, is that from this point forward, I’m worried Heather will feel that she has to censor herself for fear of the reprisal she might get for saying something wrong. Please don’t change how you write, Heather. It’s lovely.
Becky says:
Human beings are judgemental by nature and that is what is hurtful. Words are just words and it is the intent behind the words that makes them hurtful. We all filter what we see and hear based on our own experiences and the information absorbed from our environment. So the best we can do is to give each other the benefit of the doubt until we’ve confirmed what the other person’s intent is. And really we should work on ourselves to feel truly accepting of ourselves so we won’t feel sensitive when we hear words that may or may not be meant maliciously. How many people think nothing of making fun of people who are ugly or fat or whatever yet they feel outraged by words they feel are not currently PC? The real harm done here was when an innocent picture is used as a reason to lash out with malice towards sick babies and grieving parents. Whether the commenter learns anything from this or not is debatable but she obviously has issues that will take a lot of work to fix if she can ever look inward.
Amanda M. says:
Oh, FFS, it was a Native American costume, not a Trail of Tears costume. This woman is not only confusing race with illness, she’s confusing race with culture. You wore a costume based on a CULTURE because you thought it was cute. Not because you thought it was funny or something do dance around and treat stupid–you thought it looked good.
Shame on you for thinking positively of her children’s culture? I mean, jeez. Equating race and culture to the deadly illness that took your sweet girl from you, and many other people’s children from them… So, so not cool.
Regardless, I hope this lady has had her eyes opened to the crazy errors she’s made! You made a simple error in using a term that some people don’t consider P.C. and immediately changed it, but this lady took non-P.C. to new heights. Yipes!
.-= Amanda M.´s last blog ..Manga Monday (cough): 100% Perfect Girl =-.
Veronika says:
I had a long response, but honestly I just can’t. People, take pride in who you are whatever color you are and move on. What’s more shocking to me is that this is a white woman leaving comments like this because she has Native American children. Lady, this is not even your issue. You can never understand what your Native American children feel and face. But I had 3 of my 4 children born in various degrees of prematurity. Your comments were offensive. That is what separates you from Heather’s posts and comments. You had malicious intent with every word you spouted.. you deliberately tried to injure and wound. You aimed for the spot you knew would hurt most. Heather made an uneducated mistake, one she tried to rectify when she knew better. Lady, you suck.
Jason says:
I cannot even fathom the hypocrisy of what you just wrote. So, the woman has no right to feel the pain her children feel every day but a mother of a preemie gets to feel that pain, because it’s HER pain?? It’s not HER issue?? She is their mother, for Pete’s sake. She loves them, nurtures them, cries with them and wants to fight their battles, as most mothers do. Will she know what it’s like to *be* a Native American and be discriminated against, maybe not, but she’ll feel the pain a mother feels when her children are unfairly attacked, racialized and stereotyped. You aren’t a preemie, Veronika, but you feel the pain a mother feels when her child suffers from health problems, not knowing if they’ll live or die. Veronika, you suck. Grow up. How can you possibly say she has no right to hurt for her children and to defend their rights?
Kim says:
Jason,
Are you kidding me????? You cannot compare the pain of having your child discriminated against to the pain of having a child that almost dies and has their health compromised!!! I spent 7 weeks on bed rest fighting for my babies’ lives and then had to endure 12 weeks of watching THEM fight for their lives! You can never know how that feels, as a mother, to stand by helplessly while your child suffers! Obviously, you do not have any premature children and thank God for that. Consider yourself lucky. It’s not an easy road!
Jason says:
And you, Kim, will never know what it’s like having your house firebombed, or your car burned, because you, as a white woman, married a black man, and your kids are bi-racial.
I’m not saying her pain is worse. I’m saying we both feel pain and it’s wrong to prioritize yours over mine (or anyone else’s).
Veronika says:
Jason,
I was born prematurely, so I know what I’m talking about. I also live in another country as a minority race, so I know what her children feel better than she every will. You, on the other hand Jason, have no earthly idea of what it feels like to watch your child covered with wires in an NICU and to not know if you’ll get to take them home. You don’t know what it’s like to be cornered and harassed when you go shopping because you are the only person of your race in the mall and you just happen to be female, so every large male of the opposite race tries to intimidate you just because they can. You don’t know what it is like to run with your child in your arms at night, running for your very life because a band of men attacked your house because of your race. So spare me the lecture and spare me your hypocrisy.
Jen says:
For what it’s worth, Russell Means, an activist and I believe founder and leader of the AIM, prefers the term ‘American Indian”, as he says that any native born American, IS a Native American.
Sometimes the politically correct and “culturally sensitive term” isn’t how people identify themselves.
From One Heather to Another says:
I have followed your blog for some time, and cried when I learned of Maddie’s passing and was overjoyed to learn of Annie’s birth. I have often enjoyed the photos and videos of your two beautiful children, and I think that you have done wonderful things for others, and asked for so little in return.
I am ¼ Polish, ¼ German, and ½ French. My Polish grandmother thinks the Polish jokes are funny and she collected them for a time, writing them down in a notebook. She was blonde too, so she took many of the blonde jokes and made them Polish. She wasn’t ever offended. She just thought it was funny.
I live in Oklahoma, in the capitol of the Cherokee Nation. I have been happily married for almost 14 years to a man who is half Cherokee and half white. I showed my husband your initial blog entry with the pictures and he thought you looked “hawt” in your costume, and did not find it or the wig offensive. In fact, he said it looked more like a hippy wig on Annie. I then showed him today’s post. He was shocked and horrified that someone had gone to that extreme and he seriously wondered if the woman was a troll or a “wannabe.” He did not think she was on the level nor did he think that she was truly of Indian descent.
I also work in an organization where myself and one other woman are the only non-Indian people on staff. The rest are Cherokee, ranging from ¼ degree to full blood. I did the same thing with the women I work with. Only one person stated that your costume bothered her, but she said that it was the low neckline of your outfit that she had the issue with. In fact, they all agreed that this woman who lost her temper must really have a stroke each time she sees a little girl in a Disney Pocahontas outfit!
The general consensus also was that the words “Indian,” “Native American,” and “American Indian” are interchangeable. Three people said that they use Indian or American Indian when asked about their heritage, but that the use of any of the three terms is not offensive to them at all. Two (my husband and one woman) wondered if this woman either had been claiming to be Indian or is trying to prove that she has Indian heritage. Both stated that it is usually the “wannabes” who go off like this. I even had someone ask me if I was serious that someone actually posted those remarks and were they mentally ill.
Stereotypes and racial discrimination happen all the time. My husband was quick to point out that many of his mother’s family (the Cherokee side) often discriminate against him because he is only half and is “too light” for their taste. Never mind he grew up with knowing his culture, and he can speak his mother’s traditional language. I think that this woman was looking for a fight and thought she could get away with it since she felt anonymous and empowered behind a computer screen.
Some people just aren’t happy unless everyone is as miserable as they are. This woman clearly is one of those people. We have given her enough of our energy and now it’s time to take our collective power back from her and move on. You and Mike are doing a great job raising Annie, and I look forward to reading more about your family.
Rhonda says:
Very nice.
Jes says:
I think in a lot of ways, your commenter has gotten what she wanted – attention. And she continues to get it and bring attention to what she thinks is the issue. Could she have just closed the window and stopped reading? Absolutely. But she knew she was hitting a nerve and there’d be continued attention. I suspect she knew that her comment would bring about it’s own post or response, to some extent.
While I agree that her example is inappropriate, I also think there are certain areas of society considered too taboo to have things like wigs made as a parody (i.e., holocaust survivors or something along that line) that no one would tolerate, and I think it’s interesting how those two opposites intersect and also run parallel to one another.
Are you most upset that she compared the two opposite situations? Or that it struck too close to home? Or that it didn’t seem as PC? I think the only good that can come of this is walking away and thinking about the underlying meaning of everything for yourself, away from the public who is cheering one way or another. Just my two cents.
.-= Jes´s last blog ..I wear my sunglasses at night (and lots of other times, too) =-.
Cara says:
Hi Heather! I am an everyday reader and leave an occasional comment. I love your blog and you are such an inspiration to me as a mother. This post today was shocking to me. You were gracious enough to apologize to this person even though it was not your intent to offend them. However, this person writes back such horrible comments with the obvious intention of offending you. I started crying when I was reading it, I mean, does this person ever even read your blog? How could they write those things???? Heather, don’t let this get you down. You are one of the most genuine, caring, loving people that I have not had the oppurtunity to meet!!! You have my support, 100%.
Tara says:
Heather, I don’t think anyone felt you were being derogatory when you used the word “Indian”. That’s the term we grew up saying, it wasn’t meant in a disrespectful way at all. And said commenter probably knew that, but felt like saying something just to start something.
It’s hard to keep track of all the “PC” terms these days, as they seem to change by the minute. You are a kind person who wouldn’t hurt someone intentionally and I’m sorry she attacked you. I’m even more sorry for her crude and hateful description of a preemie. And, even if it WASN’T an honest mistake, this is your blog and you can say/write whatever the heck you want to. She (and others) have the choice to not visit if they are offended.
Like I said before, she was obviously trying to start something and was just waiting for an opportunity to attack. It’s too bad when people act that way. I feel sorry for her that she felt her behavior and her words were acceptable.
Ray says:
When you posted that photo of you dressed as a, “Native American” for halloween; I had a feeling someone would take offense to it.
What I don’t get about someone taking offense to it is exactly what you stated: “I thought your race and heritage are things to be proud of, not things that are tragic. (Don’t get me wrong, I understand the injustices that many races have endured).”
But maybe since you dressed up as a Native American for halloween it sets sort of a mockery-kind-of-undertone. Which, I know is not what you had in mind when choosing your costume. I guess regardless of your actions; people are going to take offense, because with race; it’s always a touchy subject.
As for the preemie comment: That was just a LOW BLOW! That simple. It looks like she wanted to kick you where it hurt, and that was wrong of her. To choose that avenue instead of going towards another direction, that would have been more appropriate. More mature.
Way more mature…
Kay says:
Heather, I wouldn’t let this level of ignorance ruffle your feathers. Anyone can see that you were not trying to be mean or disrespectful towards Native Americans, but instead just wearing a cute costume. I don’t see what difference there is in you (or Annie, who by the way is absoloutely ADOREABLE in all of those wigs) for Halloween or people of all ethnicities wearing shamrocks and green on St. Patricks day./ I am a proud Irish American, and when I see a black man wearing a “kiss me I’m Irish” pin or an arab woman with shamrock stickers on her face on St. Patrics day (or anytime if they so desire) I dont take that as an insult- infact, I take it as a compliment that these people who have thier own culture would, even for a day, like to embrace my heratige. This woman is obviously just a miserabe example of political correctness gone awry, and the fact that she would try to compir you dressing up as a native american to your daughters prematurity is absoloutely absurd.
hinhio says:
Rick James just called. He’s suing you for libel for donning his trademark hairstyle and publishing it on your blog.
Darcie says:
It’s amazing how passionate someone can be once something affects their life directly. I cant help but wonder if she has always stood up the beliefs of Native Americans or if she got all high and mighty once she adopted her daughters.
I know everyone has said it – but you’ve done nothing wrong. Your costume was cute and it was like 10 flippin’ years ago for crying out loud!
I was going to call you graceful in your reply, but now that song from Miss Congeniality is stuck in my head…(She’s beauty and she’s grace…she’s miss united states…) Oh geez!
.-= Darcie´s last blog ..All Grown Up… =-.
Janeen says:
Maybe this reader should attack the companies that make the costumes that are not PC and not you.
Rach says:
Political correctness drives me batty.
Now, people who are black have to be called “African American”, even if they are “Jamaican American.” A Jamaican friend of mine is driven batty when people call him “African American” instead of black. He always says, “I am Jamaican, not African!”
Political correctness is so silly, and usually for the people who need a good vibrator so they have something else to nitpick.
.-= Rach´s last blog ..cry your eyes out here =-.
Rach says:
p.s. I guess what i was trying to say is that this chick needs a vibrator so she’s a little less tense.
.-= Rach´s last blog ..cry your eyes out here =-.
Ashleas says:
There’s a difference between defending your culture, heritage and history and educating people about what is correct and how you and your peers wish to be referred to and being a complete asshole with no tact or concern for your own behavior. Treat others as you wish to be treated; set the example; be the bigger person, etc. etc.
I have no desire to offend people. I was raised calling Native Americans “Indians” and am now within the past few years becoming aware of the idea of “First peoples” or “First Nations” Terminology thanks to my Geography class in College. When speaking about the Indian and Hindu Cultures, I find myself sometimes having to say “India Indians” because our culture in the US is in still in that transitional period in adopting a new way of referring to the Native Peoples that were here before us. Is that an acceptable excuse? Probably not considering how quickly we’ve adapted the words “Facebooking” and “Twittering” but most of us don’t discuss Native Peoples on a daily basis.
You did what was correct by changing the term “Indian” to Native American. Sure, the costume was inappropriate. Did you know that at the time when were 22? I doubt it. You had other things on your mind. You’re sorry for it, you learned and you moved on. Case closed.
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Cristina says:
I being a full blown Mexican, and when it comes to halloween I sometimes cringe at those “lazy man sleeping under the cactus” costume. But Not because of the costume itself, but because of the way that person wears it. If they are going around saying “Oh look at me, im your typical lazy drunk mexican!” then Yes I totally get offended! BUT if this is just a costume someone picked because it looked cool, Then ALRIGHT! Thats great! No offense taken at all and if anything, Kind of proud someone thinks our style is cool. Even if its just for Halloween.
When it comes to using the word “Indian” I get it. I have my own opinions about it, But you know what, They feel what they feel so I cant tell them different.
But taking it as far as describing Being native american compared to a helpless little baby being born premature is beyond out of line. I get that Native Americans have been through allot and it is a very tragic heritage through what they have gone through, BUT to compare yourself to a premature baby is beyond words as just…..Stupid!
And Especially on a blog about someone who so clearly is still hurting day in and day out of loosing that precious premature baby, Are you kidding me?
I Understand she was angry but how angry at life do you have to be to give such a low blow. that to me is 100 times worse then coming to me and saying “You Wetback!” Its a phrase, a nick name, a stupid saying. But I only being 22 years old have known that that term is as bad as you want it to be. If you get your panties in a knot about it, then yes its gonna be offensive. But if you know that its Just a silly (and mean) term, but we know as a fact we dont go running around after a 2 mile swim in any river, therfor our backs are not wet at the moment, Then Who cares about the term! The fire is only as big as you light it!
Its one thing if she came to attack you saying “you stupid wetbacks I hate you and all your race” BUT NO. She just wore a cool looking costume and it happened to be labeled as “wetback” and then she went out of her way to fix it because she understood that “wetback” is sort of offensive to certain people.
blah blah I know I get long winded So sorry.
Bottom line, If you feel like getting offended by something then thats on You. BUT to take it as far as comparing it to a poor baby, That is SICK. SICK SICK SICK. No one deserves to hear those words that she said. No body!
Issa says:
You know my thoughts on this one, so I’ll not go there again. Am glad you brought it up again though. Think that it needs to be said, to think before you speak. Some people need to hear it again, I guess.
I’ll leave you with this: A joke from my oldest.
Why did the tomato turn red? Because it saw the salad dressing.
.-= Issa´s last blog ..Monday rambling, because it’s what I do best =-.
Cristina says:
one more comment
Cant Somebody please tell me how Race and heritage is the same as an Illness??
its like saying Being Mexican sucks as bad as having Cancer!
and then going off and describing everything bad that goes with cancer.
Or Being Asian is like having AIDS.
Being French is like having MS.
Being Italian is like being Blind.
Being American is like having Leukemia.
Heritage and race is something you are born into. Its something your supposed to treasure and love. and Live life with being proud of it. your family around you is the same race as you are, and you all celebrate the many things about your own heritage.
An Illness is something you can be born with, but its something that isnt right. You arnt supposed to be born sick. Your family around you does not have it, its just you. and Everyone around you suffers with you. You can not celebrate it. The only celebration is when you Beat it.
So if you think your Race/Heritage is as bad as a poor defenseless premature baby, then you are your own Racist against yourself.
Jason says:
Your comment really shows your ignorance. Millions of people have been killed and tortured for being of a certain race. Black slaves in America. Jews in Europe. Aboriginals in Canada. For them, being born as they sentenced them to a life that is unfair. The comparison you’re making is shallow and completely without context.
Cristina says:
that was not my intention and Please do read my other Comment I posted somewhere here
Maybe I took it to far and thats fair, But It was just an example of what I took from it.
I DO know how every race has had their suffering. And I do understand you are born in to it. My Point was that with the TERMS people use. I was just trying to see WHY it was okay to compare being in a Native American costume is the same as wearing a Premature baby costume. it’s just Cruel!
Again, I understand that everyone has had their share to unfairness. I am Mexican and I still have to deal with Racism today. Or how bout the fact that Right now in mexico there is a civil war going on and I cant even go back to visit without the fear of being kidnapped, killed, or hurt! Thats NOT what I was trying to say.
Bottom Line I was using those as examples. For what She said about wearing the Premature Baby Costume.
So I’m sorry you dont understand my point and again, Maybe I just took it too far. But It was more of a rhetorical question.
Not once did I say “oh nobody has suffered, the world has been peaceful since the beggining of time” because I get that. Its just not ok to to compare Heather wearing a Native American costume to her saying she was going to wear a Premie baby costume!
Just Jiff says:
I didn’t see her comment, thankfully, because I would’ve flown off the handle. I couldn’t have said it any better than what you just did,.
My daughter was born at 33 weeks and was a preemie. I remember her having an IV in her scalp and how the nurses called me at home to warn me before I showed up so I would be somewhat prepared. For someone as IGNORANT as that commenter to suggest that someone would actually have poor enough taste to dress up for a holiday as a preemie, well, I just don’t have words for that. Ignorance is the most polite but accurate word I can use for that commenter. I will not go back to read her original comment, nor do I want to know where her blog is. I encounter enough idiots wihtout trying, so I won’t go searching them out.
I also have Native American background but I never get offended at a costume. Whatever happened to kids playing “Cowboys and Indians?” I don’t feel a costume such as yours was mocking my ancestors or myself. Get a life and grow a thicker skin. Seriously. Call me an Indian. I don’t need to have a politically correct name of “Native American.” Whatever. I think people just want others to be as miserable as they are, so she was just looking to pick a fight.
I love you Heather (and Mike and Maddie and Annie) and hope that no more ignorance crosses your path anytime soon.
*HUGS*
Krissa says:
Well, this stuff is pretty much why I almost never read the comments. I totally missed all the drama, but I did see the wig post. My heritage is, in order: German/English/Scottish/Irish/Swedish/
French and…. Native American. The Native American is on my dad’s side and growing up, even he said we had Indian blood. It was only after I grew up and learned about what happened to the Native peoples of America that I stopped saying Indian myself, but I don’t get mad when other people do. My mom still says it. My ancestor was Lenape. I don’t even know if she willingly married into the family or if something bad happened. People have gone so far as to ask me “what are you?” because I guess I look not entirely white. I’ve had people ask if I were ‘mixed’, Lebanese, Hispanic, Israeli, Russian, “Indian” (as in Native American) and the list goes on. When I lived in NYC a lot of people thought I was Hispanic and I did actually get some nasty comments and stuff from time to time so I really can relate to people who are discriminated against based on race. I lived in Kansas many years ago and got one person who made a comment to me that he didn’t know what tribe I was from, but went on to complain about the Native Americans and the casinos, etc. This person didn’t know me, we had never met, and this happened at a Chamber of Commerce meeting I was at for work. Anywho…I’m leaving a way long comment here so to get to the point…having actually been treated badly sometimes because people thought I am non-white, I in any case agree that the comments left by the person who was upset with you crossed the line. And how sad is it that prematurity (is that the right term?) is actually something that ALL races have in common and is a common tragedy for all. It doesn’t discriminate. The last thing I’ll say is that having read your blog for over a year now I can see (we all can see) that you are a good-hearted person and not at all racist or discriminatory in anyway. And as far as this incident goes with the wig post, you were wrongly attacked. I am sorry for that woman that she obviously has gone through some tough times with her kids, but she was in the wrong and though you’ll probably never get it, she owes you an apology. Ok, that may be the longest comment I ever wrote. But I just wanted to add my thoughts. …. the end.
Amy Collen says:
Wow! What a discussion. You know, I agree with you Heather. I think this originally stemmed from the fact that Jensboys thought you deleted her comment. However, her arguing about it was completely over the line. Any reader of your blog would know that you would in no way try to deliberately offend anyone! I think Jensboys comments were intended to hurt and offend which is wrong.
I think sometimes we moms fall into that rageful “Mother Bear” instinct and want to maim and destroy ANYONE who even dares to say anything they deem offensive about their children. However, to assume that people mean harm and then to attack back just serves no purpose. One has to be careful which battles to choose and realize when people actually don’t mean any harm at all. If I were Jensboys I would have simply e-mailed privately off the list to let you (Heather) know that the photo may offend some people. Really, she would have been able to accomplish the same thing! No reason, to just jump right into it fists flying!
Okay, my kid is hollering for me so I will bring this comment to a close. Again, interesting discussion.
Jennifer says:
I understand both sides of the argument; however, I’m not sure why you’ve brought it up again days later.
I didn’t read every note on the entry in question, but it seemed to me the issue was, more or less, settled. The offender apologized on more than one occasion. Why rehash it when everyone, including her, agrees it was wrong? So we can have a healthy discussion and even more people can defend you and call out the offender?
It’s just a little catty in my opinion.
Heather says:
I’m sorry you feel that way, Jennifer. A lot of people read this blog, and by writing about it I hoped that people with differing viewpoints would help me to understand things from their perspective. I do this often on the weekends with my Momversation topics. I am constantly trying to learn and improve myself. I wanted a healthy discussion, and I think that for the most part, that’s what this is.
It would have been catty if I’d linked to her, or asked people to give her a hard time. I would never do that. I WANT to understand these things, and I want to PROMOTE understanding.
That’s my motivation behind this post.
Jennifer says:
Fair enough – I can’t argue with that!
I just felt like adding my two cents.
Amy Collen says:
…and I agree THIS IS HEATHER’S BLOG AND SHE HAS ALREADY APOLOGIZED SEVERAL TIMES NOW. NO MORE ATTACKING HEATHER!!!!! (whew, now my mommy bear instinct is kicking in now).
Steele says:
You have to remember that just like in real life, you can’t make everyone happy. Sometimes people bring their personal issues and agendas onto the net. Whether or not you deleted her comment is irrevelent. It’s your blog, not that individuals. However, she assumed you did delete and then began the personal slams because now, this individual felt she had been personally insulted not once, but now twice, although that is not the case. Just like in real life, people bring their personal issues and agendas to the ‘net, and will vent on anyone they think is disrespecting them, whether that is the case or not. While American Indians were horribly mistreated two hundred years ago, dressing as a “stereotypical” American Indian, is not mistreatment. If that person has “issues” with commercial American Indian costumes, perhaps that person should complain to the source, the manufacturer. The bottom line, is some people are just too sensitive, need to wipe their nose, and put on their big girl panties. Do not take that person’s comments personally, seriously. You did nothing wrong. She, however, well….. lets just say if she feels strongly about the issue, then she needs to focus her energies in a more productive way than whining and attacking a person on the ‘Net. And I would ask that person exactly how did you offend her. What was it exactly that this person didn’t like about your picture. But personally, I don’t think you need to worry about getting clarification on the matter. She’s got issues, and they should not effect or affect your life.
Melissa says:
p.s. When I saw your post about all the wigs, I didn’t think about anything other than “Gosh, you’re pretty.”
You just about have a perfect face, Heather. Gosh. You’re pretty.
Jewl says:
Screw her Heather. Most people that claim racial bigotry have never been involved in it. You know what, I’ve never owned a slave and I will not apologize for people that did!!!! and I guarantee this woman hasn’t been beaten up over her race or her children’s. Its a different world these days, I say GET OVER IT YOU ZEALOTS!!! Find something better to do with your time you INDIAN!!! OOOh, thats soo bad, well get over it, go hug a tree. Being and Indian means you get free land to build casinos on!!! I want to be an Indian!! Bless you and your family and I say its your freaking blog write what you want and if they don’t like it go read someone elses blog!!
T.J. says:
Wow, there are so many things wrong with this comment, I don’t know where to start. First of all, it’s not as if the end of slavery was the end of racism against black people. You act as if racism doesn’t exist anymore. You are wrong. Also, “go hug a tree?” What does that have to do with anything? And finally, I’m shocked that you would say you want to be Native American because they “get free land to build casinos on.” That is such an ignorant statement on so many levels. When was the last time you visited a reservation and saw the reality of reservation life? You have a lot of learning and growing up to do.
Amy says:
Hi have to agree with T.J. Very poorly said (whatever it is that you were trying to say).
hawkfeather says:
I said above somewhere that I think some of the comments here stand to make a point..
Of course some are going to gain insight and share perspectives and have an actual exchange here…
But I tend to read things like this and think to myself- I hope some readers can see this and allow it to give them a glimmer of why this topic is hurtful to some.
Lyndsie says:
Hel-lo! I would hope everyone here is smart enough to know that racism is not cool and what Native Americans endured years ago was terribly sad and wrong. Heather apologized and I think those of us who read her blog regularly know she’s not a mean or intentionally insensitive person.
What really pisses ME off is the stupid comment about the preemie baby costume and the tragic reality. No doubt that jensboys said that to be mean. Let me ask everyone here a question… Would you rather have a Native American child or a dead child? Which is more tragic? Sheesh. Heather, I’m so sorry your wig post turned into this.
BTW I’m a person of mixed ethnicity and a mother of three. My middle child was born at 33 weeks.
Donna says:
GOOD GRIEF! 1st off, what is offensive about the word “Indian”. Was not this word taken when Christopher Columbus thought he discovered “India” so called the natives Indian? I am of Cherokee descent and it does not offend me at all. I know who I am and what my heritage is and no one can take that from me. Do I want my children called names? No but Indian is not one of those names that would offend me.
This is the one thing wrong with blogs, people who don’t get all the information but comment anyway.
I’m sorry Heather. People are rude.
Pia says:
Er…but why would you want to continue to perpetuate a mistake made 500 years ago? I am Indo-Canadian (my parents are from India) and honestly, it gets under my skin a bit when people call me “East” Indian. There is no such thing as East India…there’s just India. There is an actual reason why people get upset over the use of the word, because it’s inaccurate. Maybe it seems nitpicky, but just because it doesn’t matter to you doesn’t mean that it should continue to be repeated and passed down.
Donna says:
I don’t pass down the word Indian to my kids. I use the term Native American. Not to be politically correct but to be kind to those who may not appreciate being called Indian. Being called an Indian does not change who we are or what our heritage is made of. If the person who is using it is not being unkind, why would it offend?
No matter how offended we are, for whatever reason-it doesn’t give us a right to put down others or cause them undo hurt. I disagree with you but I’m sure that doesn’t make either one of us bad people. Jennsboys was offended and stated that fact. Instead of letting it go, having been heard-she intentionally used hurtful words. She was apologized to and the word that offended her was removed. One offensive act (especially when done unintentionally) should not be met with yet another “intentional” offensive act.
Jenn72 says:
I vote we just cancel out Halloween and costume parties and the theatre and tv and movies and make it a law that if you are caught wearing anything other than your goverment issued blue, green or purple jumpsuit (because those are the only colors available that aren’t associated with any particular race or creed or ethnicity… and yes orange IS a skin color, just ask any Hollywood starlet) you will be shot on site.
That should take care of not offending ANYONE anymore.
Jennie says:
I don’t understand why people feel the ned to go into attack mode. If you’re offended, just say so. Obviously, she is very sensitive to the subject and overreacted, probably with the best interest of her family at heart. But by drawing an analogy that barely made sense (and as you pointed out, Heather, going WAY too far), she weakened her argument.
I hadn’t previously read that post by Uncle Kyle. It made me sad reading it today, knowing how that vote turned out. Someday, right?
.-= Jennie´s last blog ..May is the Month for Meetings =-.
Sandra says:
We have every race imaginable here in the Bay Area and it would not be considered rude or improper where I live to dress up for HALLOWEEN as an INDIAN or say the word INDIAN.
I get the whole politically correct thing, but lets not go overboard people. Since when was the word Indian a bad word?
I literally just had a friend from work who is African American ask me where Julian sat. I had no idea who Julian is. She replies with “He’s black blah blah blah……………”. If people in their own race aren’t going to follow the “rules” why are the rest of us expected to?
Your Commenter needs to get a life.
Oh, and I had a preemie as well. A 34 weeker.
Alexandra :) says:
Wow…she seems a bit too defensive. Well, I for one think that YOUR premature baby was one of the prettiest babies I’ve ever seen in my life.
Michelle Dash, Pharm.D. says:
Dearest Heather… It makes me weep to see that you are being required to respond to potentially blind-sighted visitors that make these reckless kinds of snap-judgments. **I** was born 9 weeks early back in the mid-60’s and am damned lucky that I survived. I was introduced to your blog last April by Mad’s story in the LA Times, but didn’t have the strength to look until a few weeks ago (as i was busy caring for my father/superhero who left us finally on 12/10…)… Your work has made me feel that I need to contribute to the March of Dimes. And I now WILL. Whatever. That ANYONE dares to give you crap over ANYTHING you wish to write under your specific circumstances just brings out the savage “ersatz-big-sister” in me… And it is both so unfair and SO uncalled for. You have been through things that the average reader can only side-wise experience through nascent nightmares, and that ANYONE takes this as license to hassle you about a freakin’ WIG???? What a complete outrage…
All the best to you, Heather, Mike, Annie, Maddie… It’s *so* hard to be human, but PLEASE don’t listen to the ameoba who elect to drag you down. You are doing JUST fine. Moreso, you are doing AMAZING things on behalf of the kidlets who will need so badly one day to see that they were adored no-matter-what.
Thank you for the inspiration you provide to those of us who arrived too soon and deal with the consequences of as much every day. Our mom’s did what they could (EVERYTHING they could with what they knew), and may angels bless them for doing so… I know it was never, never easy.
I’m a mom of three cherubs of my own at this point, teenage-cherubs who suddenly wish that I would do little but melt into the floorboards on many days… But I NEVER forget the easily-adored angels they always were & will always be… I’m an incredibly lucky mom.
Diana says:
This may not be a strong argument, but I am gonna make it. This is YOUR blog and you have every right to post whatever you desire. I think she is ridiculous. At no point are you demeaning her heritage by wearing a Native American wig. Puhleeeeeeeeease!
And her comparison is truly unconscionable. Her comments enraged me!
Mary says:
Good gracious me! Sending you my love!
.-= Mary´s last blog ..Hurray!!!!!!!! =-.
Linds says:
anytime you lump people together into a group, and make people a “they”…its going to cause problems.
do i think heather’s costume was offensive? no. ignorant? yes. does my opinion represent ANY group? NO. i can only speak for MYSELF – my opinion does not represent midwesterners, women, married people, teachers, people over 5’5”, whatever other way you want to categorize me. i really wish that we would recognize that.
heather, i think that you have handled the situation well in terms of your response to her initial concerns. having a forum to talk about these issues is important. but when people are just talking AT each other, or when people are not truly educated on these topics, it can just be a mess.
so how about something we can all agree on…more cute baby pictures!
.-= Linds´s last blog ..North to the Future =-.
brooke says:
whatever happened to imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?
i apologize for the frank nature of this post, but i found this whole thing a bit sickening.
simply dressing in a costume is not demeaning unless you are attempting to perpetrate a negative stereotype. blackface is offensive because it does just that (http://black-face.com/). somehow i seriously doubt heather was hopping around, slapping her mouth with her hand and throwing fake tomahawks at passersby with a savage look. THAT would be closer to grounds for a comparison to wearing blackface or making some crazy claim about a preemie stereotype… which quite honestly i wouldn’t know how to identify if i saw it apart from this glowing description you elaborate on. frankly, wearing a costume of tubes and machines while making your appearance sickly is mocking grief and illness. i’m sorry, but wearing braids and a “silly dress” as you put it, is NOT the same as say, doing it while carrying a blanket that says small pox and painting a rash on your face. then the comparison would have validity.
i’ve so had it with PC culture and bowing to every sensitivity someone can think up even though a person is obviously in no way trying to exploit that sensitivity. it is totally counter-productive to what it stands for. you know what makes people hyper-sensitive? people dictating how other people can dress, what they can talk about, what words they can use, etc. in situations where they already know that no offense is meant by them. some would refer to that as tyranny. if you know someone’s intentions are not cruel, then don’t try to imply that what they are doing is cruel and disrespectful, it blatantly isn’t.
i am so sick of it being suggested that “eurocentric racism” is the root of cultural ignorance and disrespect for others. culture is a conglomation of so many more things than just a peoples recorded historical injustices or their geography when a currently recognized nation was formed. i don’t care what color you are, what religion you practice, how you dress, how you wear your hair, who you have relations with, or who did those things first in history, or who we presently associate those things with as long as you aren’t identifying with them with the intention to deliberately mock anothers suffering or discredit their value as a person. face it, no matter what race box we check on a survey, we all descended from a common ancestor, we are ALL initially related in a vast expansive network of different characteristics, and we are all really of ONE race, human. we share one prominent commonality, sentience. and true discrimination exists in anything that doesn’t allow for one to respectfully have a similar sense to someone else because they don’t have the same heritage in the traceable past and that heritage suffered some injustice at some point.
please, by all means, dress as my ancestors if you find their costume attractive, study my religion if it inspires you, where my hairstyle if it makes you look hot, you can mistakenly call me scotch-irish instead of scots-irish, and i’m not going to suggest your disrespecting an entire culture of people. discrimination is exclusion, telling people what they can or cannot do without regard to their motives is just that: discrimination. just because someone doesn’t have the dna that is tied with your heritage doesn’t mean they must be excluded with all things culturally tied to your heritage or risk being eurocentric racists. there is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage, there is something wrong with using that pride as a way to exclude others or make them feel guilty.
Anna says:
Well said!
Meg...CT says:
perfect
Sarah P says:
*hug*
The comments were totally uncalled for. I’m glad you wrote this post.
Kathy says:
She referred to Heather’s situation as “tragic reality”. She used “appropriating historical dress disrespectfully” to refer to her own situation.
As a mother, she has the right to stick up for her kids. Whereas the “preemie costume” may have been a valid analogy, the graphic nature of it was a bit extreme. Being insensitive to someone else isn’t the best way to teach others to be sensitive to your issues.
There are offensive comments all over the internet, including on this site (note the use of the word “retarded” in the comments about your brother and all the slamming of “privileged whites” here). Seriously, if people are going to get this upset everytime they see an offensive word or picture, they better just disconnect the Internet and Cable right now and go live in a cave.
You can only fight so many battles–choose the ones where you can really make a difference.
** Interesting that you changed the word “Indian” to “Native American” for this woman but didn’t take down the picture of the costume, which she also found offensive.
Heather says:
I thought about taking the picture down, but I decided to leave it up. My thinking was: I made a mistake by using the offensive term, one that I could easily change. I can’t change the costume I wore, and by taking it down I felt like I would be trying to hide my mistake instead of owning up to it.
Steele says:
Healther, you made no mistake by putting up a picture!
Jeanie says:
Please don’t let someone’s pettiness and ignorance get you down. It sounds like she has a huge chip on her shoulder! I see nothing wrong with dressing up as a Native American and would never for a moment believe it to be disrespectful.
Jen at Cabin Fever says:
I agree. It is wonderful when people are passionate about what they believe in, but most importantly respectful. I commend your classiness for this retort and handling of the situation.
Part of the reason that racial lines exist is because of situations like when a costume made in good fun with no malicious intent and is then twisted around and made into a racist stand point. Those that scream out about racism are perpetuating it themselves.
Cabin Fever in Vermont
.-= Jen at Cabin Fever´s last blog ..I Wonder What the Postman Thinks =-.
Another Heather from Canada says:
Thankfully I did not read the original comments this lady made as I would have FLOWN off the handle at this woman. I am full blooded Native American, my 2 babies are half native american/half polish. One of my babes was a preemie and if I had responded to that woman’s comment originally, it would NOT have been pretty ! EVERY BLOODY DAY I thank god for my baby and pray for you and your family Heather, you have made me SO enlightened on how to appreciate being a mom and a parent. To describe PRECIOUS INNOCENT chidren in such a way is VILE ! On behalf of my race, I want to apologize for this woman using SUCH derogatory terms to describe a preemie, PLEASE do not think that we are all this way. In a few ways, the costume was slightly offensive but as many have stated was clearly not malicious and clearly not meant to harm anyone. What this woman said hit me hard and I am SO sorry that you had to endure it, while the lady with the original post did try to make a point, the 2nd post was SO off base, it made me think that this is why there are such bad opinions of the protestors, not because of what they do, but because of how they act. To an extent, I experienced racial discrimination from my own native american cousin, it was about the 2008 olympics in vancouver where I supported the torch going through Six Nations, this relative of mine then decided to attack me through her blog because I had a different opinion then hers, hers being that it should not go through Six Nations. Some views can be so polarizing that one can’t help but wonder HOW you can compare the loss of a premature infant to a costume. I am sorry to other Native Americans I may have offended, and Heather, you rock ! You have handled this with SUCH dignity !! I applaud you !
Melissa says:
Serious question. Why is the costume offensive? Native American’s at one time DID dress like that (albeit, probably not so short). It was dressing in historical figure garb. I still fail to see why that is offensive.
Another Heather from Canada says:
Not historical for all Native Americans, many other tribes dressed in different regalia involving what is more commonly referred to as ribbon clothing, my tribe is Mohawk and from the Iroquois tribe for instance. In no way in my post was I attacking Heather at all, like I said, I’m sure she meant no malice at all, and in all honesty, to me it was, as I said, slightly offensive, but certainly I’m not as fanatical about that as a lot of people I know.
Katie says:
There is a difference between insulting someone inadvertantly and being downright, purposefully cruel.
She was downright, purposefully cruel.
And that, no matter who you are, should be unacceptable.
charlene says:
call me stupid but I did not know that “indian” was offensive to them. I was talking to a friend the other day who is 1/4 indian and I said indian and he was in no way offended. Wow , I will have to ask him about it. I like you would not want to offend no one. I think they are awesome people. I live in the west and are around alot of native americans. You learn something new everyday. I loved your wigs…so cute on Annie
Meghan says:
The line is a dot to you!
And that’s as much as i’m going to say right now.
:0)
.-= Meghan´s last blog ..Best Intentions =-.
cori says:
Wow, this has certainly lit a fire.
I personnaly feel very privileged to read your blog. I have seen other bloggers close their blogs to only friends, due to rude and insulting comments.
Thank you Heather for continuing to allow us into your family.
Blessings to you.
Lisa says:
As a minority myself, I didn’t see anything you did/wrote/posted as being offensive. You were not insulting or derogatory, it was completely innocent. I think people need to chill out and not look for problems where none exist. There is nothing tragic about being a minority, and for the person who wrote that, I’m very sorry that you are not proud of who you are or proud enough of who your child is. Perhaps if this commenter was proud of who he/she is and set a POSITIVE example for others of his/her race to other people, maybe, just maybe they wouldn’t be so bent out of shape for no good reason. In order to be respected, one has to be respectful.
Elise says:
Agree 100%. Well said Lisa.
Clever Title TK says:
I can’t believe everyone is missing the *real* issue here.
Heather, as a devoted reader of your blog, I am saddened, shocked and disappointed by the mockery — the mockery! — you have made of millions of proud, wig-wearing people (WWP) the world over. You have impugned the dignity of millions of wig wearers with your demeaning, offensive and insensitive photos of Annabel. Shame. SHAME!
(Kidding! Kidding! Just trying to lighten things up…)
Kim says:
I was so upset when I read what that women wrote about preemies. I had preemie twins last year and I was personally offended that she referred to them as having “bugged out eyes!” Everything she said about preemies was upsetting and offensive and very hurtful. She was comparing apples to oranges. Who is she going to go after next, Cancer patients?????? Not a good person! Her comments actually made me cry. And for the record, not that it matters, but my girls did not have “bugged out eyes!”
Angela says:
I.Want.To.Vomit!
You are one of the sweetest, honest and down-to-earth bloggers I have read.
To think that ANYONE could find anything offensive in ANY of your posts is complete and utter you-know-what.
To think that anyone would post what that particular person posted with respect to the condition which took Maddie’s life, sickens me.
I hope you give this NOT one more minute of your valuable time. The person who posted this is proof that some people are vile, disgusting people.
Ugh………………..Now where’s Annie? *I* need a hug.
Angela
Jennifer says:
It is times like these when I think back to the immortal words of Ice-T, “Eat a hot bowl of……….”
No? This sin’t one of those times? Dangit.
ps: All in fun
Cheryl says:
Coming from a gay mom of twin preemies, I am disgusted.
.-= Cheryl´s last blog ..Changing =-.
Kat says:
I don’t understand how dressing like Pocahontas for Halloween is offensive to anyone, if you had dressed as Princess Jasmine or Cinderella, would she have still taken offense? I really think people are way too sensitive about certain things these days. Annabel was adorable in the wig and you were really cute in your costume too. Comparing it to someone dressing as a preemie, is beyond comparison and absolutely horrible!
Jen says:
Found her blog, read her defense of herself to her own readers, who were the only ones allowed to comment.
For someone who criticized and then attacked you for what she falsely perceived as “censorship”, it’s interesting that she failed to explain her descriptions of preemies in her explanation of herself.
Christie says:
Completely agree…thought the exact same thing…she completely omitted that “tiny” detail. Disgusting.
Melissa says:
I should not have googled to find her site.
I wasn’t angry before. I am now.
I need to get off the internet. I’m going for a walk with my dogs and seeing if we can find some fireflies – hopefully will be distracted enough to stop seething.
Kate says:
Her description of a preemie was WAY off (mine was a preemie and weighed 6.12 pounds! He looked like a lawn gnome!). I am totally on your side with this.
Oh, i also have friends who are NAVAJO and say that they are INDIANS. So she needs to get a grip.
Great response from you, way to go mama!
.-= Kate´s last blog ..mrsevilvixen:Now these are the kind of fish I want…. =-.
Alison says:
Careful, the lawn gnomes will be knocking on your door tomorrow to protest your comment.
I did giggle, I admit. My twin boys were in the 3 and 4 lb range. I now look back at their photos and think yes, they were cute but they were frail looking and I didn’t realize the frail part at the time.
.-= Alison´s last blog ..And how are you feeling? =-.
Elise says:
Heather you handled yourself better than I could have. I have not yet had a child, but I’m absolutely fuming (and stunned) over that woman’s cruel remarks about preemies. I’ll refrain from saying here what I really think of her. But know this, it isn’t good. Arrgghh.
Melissa says:
ADD – WOW! I thought when I checked the box to see responses that it would be to MY comment. Holy inbox fill Batman!
Jeannine says:
HAHA I did the same thing! Oops!
Melissa says:
Highlight – Delete – Go to delete box, repeat.
Hopefully this will be done after the next post lol.
Jeannine says:
Thanks!
I feel like a goof for not seeing that sooner =)
Heather says:
WHOOPS!
Welcome to my life – they are always emailed to me! LOL.
Heather says:
Oh, and as you probably just saw, if someone replies to your comment, it is automatically emailed to you!
Melissa says:
LOL, I saw the difference in that one. Dont worry, I am all about highlight and delete. I manage or have delegate rights to at least 15 peoples calendars. I am good at it!
Sunny says:
Sounds like she’s comparing physical disabilities to ethnicity.
Very strange. And grasping.
My son is hispanic, where DH and I are white. He was adopted as an older child. Racism is a part of our lives, of course. He’s carefully watched at the mall where his white friends are not (as an example)
People assume I’m the biological mother, and while I like THAT part, I don’t like the part where I’ve been called a whore for “going outside my race.” Yup.
DS loves it in the summer when I get tan, because then I look more like he does. He likes to hold up his arm to me to compare. I think it’s sweet. We both then laugh over how lily white DH is, because he turns into a lobster in the sun.
Racism sucks, it really does. But picking on sick babies sucks worse.
Jess says:
Is that to say we’re to get offended at the sexification of bees and woodland creatures and authority figures because women take it upon themselves to transform Halloween into International Dress-Like-A-Slut Day? Or was that offensive to sluts to say that scantily clad women on a fun, fanciful holiday are presumed to be easy because of their appearance?
Also? Isn’t it the highest form of flattery to have one attempt to look like you? I know that if I saw a post of someone who tossed on a dark haired wig, peach fuzz on their chin, stubbly legs, and a Lynard Skynard shirt, I’d be giddy with epic excitement…not offended. The hairy debacle is what I, as one of Italian descent, deal with daily. When I see a stereotypical depiction of an Italian woman, I laugh. Because that is what whomever is emulating is going for. 99.9% of the time. A chuckle, a grin, a smile, a belly laugh, a hearty guffaw.
I don’t mean this in a rude way, but surely it will be mistaken as such, I think we all need to take a big dose of Lighten Up: Now Available in Cherry and Citrus Explosion.
christina says:
Regardless of your intent, I do see how the wig/photo was offensive…obviously, the example she used was jarring and I can see how it made you feel like she crossed the line, BUT I think that’s exactly the point — that’s what your photograph did to her. Even though her delivery was harsh, I think she raised a necessary and valid point.
Melissa says:
I will ask this of you as well. Seeing as how I HAVE worn mocoosins, I have dressed as a Native American. I have had fringe lined leather goods (see I think its cool!)
Serious question. Why is the costume offensive? Native American’s at one time DID dress like that (albeit, probably not so short). It was dressing in historical figure garb. I still fail to see why that is offensive. I like it!
I even had feather roach clips in the 80’s and wore them in my hair, a year or so before I knew they were meant for roaches.
Do Native Americans get the rights to cool clothing made from leather and feathers?
(this is not a malicious question, but SERIOUS)
T.J. says:
“Why is it socially acceptable to dress like the stereotypical Indian: “Brave”,”Chief”, “Princess”, “Squaw”, “Maiden”? Pardon Moi, but when did the Native American enter the realm of Wizards, Fairies, Super-heroes, Goblins, or Ghouls? When did it become ok to reduce the diversity, language, and culture of nearly 500 different Indigenous tribes into a tacky “costume” of cheap suede, colored feathers, plastic beads, and fringe? Who decided that the history, identity, and lineage of Native Americans could be easily put on and taken off like greasy Halloween face paint?”
– taken from http://contexts.org/socimages/2009/10/29/racist-halloween-costumes/
Also, check out:
http://racerelations.about.com/od/understandingrac1/a/RaciallyOffensiveCostumes_2.htm
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/10/09/worst-sexy-halloween-costumes-the-sexy-indian/
Melissa says:
When did it become appropriate to make a costume affordable?
I have already checked out 2 of those sites and I do not agree.
If you dress as a drunken leprechaun on St. Patricks day, I wouldnt be offended.
That said, I respect your right to be offended. I get offended over things that really don’t matter in the realm of things too.
As long as the intent was not meant to harm, then I personally see no foul done. Heather looked good. Would you cry foul if I dressed as a judge with those ridiculous white wigs back then?
hawkfeather says:
This has been said several times in the comment section already- so i apologize for the repeat-
but to answer your question..
what is offensive to many is that this image is so indoctrinated into American culture that people (just like this) believe it really *is* what a Native person looks like.
Which is not really the case- the costume is based on a stereotype- generally a Tiger Lily-esque ideal.
I do not think wearing moccasins or fringed leather is *dressing as a Native*.
We had a Native vest made for a little boy in my life- it was to be worn during traditional gatherings and I can tell you there was significance in every detail- the colour, the animal chosen, the beading- what beads.. it all had deep meaning.
SInce you say your question is serious I hope you will read my answer objectively-
Do you know that there is meaning behind which feathers are used in most costuming for many tribes.
Even your example of “roach clips”..
a Roach is a Native American head piece,covered with feathers or even fur quills- it was/is used as a part of customary regalia.
The feathers with “Roach clips” were small decorative versions of a traditional aspect of Native ceremonial garb usually sold to tourists.
Different tribes have different costumes and I can not speak to what any individual feels about their clothing, style or appearance.
I do tend to think that the fact that people seem to honestly believe this is an accurate portrayal of a First Nations woman that *is* the issue here.
The culture has been SO widely parody in North America- that parody seems to have become common “knowledge” and not only is it common- it seems to many people there is little room to hear that it may be offensive.
Melissa says:
I know you Hawkfeather, from other forums. And I really respect you.
BUT, in this case, it was a general costume for what American Natives wore at that time. Made from animals, the fringe made it pretty. The thick hair makes it pretty. Pocohantas was by all means a beautiful woman. The outfit was fun. That MAY be what the writer was talking about, and I do not think that what people today, when they dress in costume (and I do not know ANY Native Americans that dress like that today, and I DO know quite a few) that don’t romantisize it. (the dress that is). I dont think it’s parody, and I read your site too.
And, no. I do not know the reasons for the feathers, and the different types.
Since there are different types I will look into it.
And as you declared, the “roach clips” CAME from tribes (no I do not know which), and everyone embraced it.
I DO understand what happened to Natives, I am related to Natives. My Godson is part Native.
It may just be where I live, but Natives are smashed here because they are poor, and dress not in Native clothing, but because of the inherrant problems that they have because of where they live and love.
The perfect example for a comparison in THESE days is that if I wear Crocs with socks does that mean I am white trash? Or will they be a costume item in 10 years (which I suspect they will much like 80’s garb). Will people be offended by THAT too?
brooke says:
“I do tend to think that the fact that people seem to honestly believe this is an accurate portrayal of a First Nations woman that *is* the issue here.”
is that the issue? or is it an issue whether this is an accurate portrayal of all first nations women?
some tribes had traditional garb that was mostly animal skin, some had ornate adorned beaded/feathered, etc. traditional garb. is wearing one form necessarily detracting from all others or suggesting that it is the only one? do people not recognize a variety of clothing as traditional to differing native american tribes? who is making the assumption that wearing a costume means you think all native americans look like that costume? if someone dresses as a southerner by wearing a flannel shirt and jeans, does that mean we are to assume they think all southerners dress that way? at what point does the slippery slope hit a wall here?
hawkfeather says:
Melissa-
I am sorry I am not sure who you are- but for the record- I don’t have *any* issue with people not agreeing with me- I can have all the respect in the world for someone who has another view than my own- don’t worry about offending me at all- a respectful exchange of opinion is different than a crass venting with offensive remarks (as I see it).
I am not sure I understood all of what you said to me there- but I can try to respond-
Most Native costuming is for ceremony and gathering- sometimes with varying costumes for varying reasons.
I am not sure how else a costume representing a race could be seen aside from a parody- and I think the responses in these comments just shows that the iconic image of a native woman is what many commenters associate with Native culture.
I am betting that even where you live there are Native people who -smashed on a regular basis or not- have traditional costumes for ceremonial purposes.
i am not sure I agree that your comparison is very perfect-
I don’t see “white trash” as a race-
Natives are minorities- a very much impoverished and abused minority- I am not sure i could compare a fashion style to a cheap example of ethnic garb.
Nor do i think a race in a position of power could really relate.
Even still- I think if white people were being defined by an example of trashiness some would probably object.
and Brooke- I think the wall was hit a long time ago-
There is a vast difference between tribal costuming and ceremonial garb and there for me is also a realization that seemingly based on this thread *yes* many people do still feel that this is what it means to ‘dress like a native woman’ .
I doubt many people actually think all Native women look like Heather did in her costume- but it hasn’t stopped people from saying- what is the big deal- it is flattery this is what Native women look like…
I don’t think you could portray a race with a costume, let alone portray all members of that race.
Some people will be offended by being represented by a pop culture icon that most likely doesn’t touch the accuracy of the role- some wont..
some care about what word is used.. some don’t.
I think the overall point here is that if someone is hurt by it- why does it need to continue?
brooke says:
hawkwind… i agree about costuming. it’s can be more or less elaborate, more or less accurate depending on what it’s representing, etc. i think the issue really falls to the spirit the costume is worn in. i hope people don’t quickly jump to the conclusion that taking recognizable aspects of a culture’s garb and making a cheap halloween store costume out of them means to cheapen the culture itself, or depict accurately a holistic view of a race of people. my concern is when people are offended based on a misplaced notion that wearing a costume or even the traditional clothing itself is somehow disrespectful and can’t be done for reasons such as appreciation or admiration of that culture.
my point with the PC word use was that some natives of this land think native american is a hurtful term, some think indian is a hurtful term, so how are we non-natives supposed to properly choose a descriptive without unitentionally hurting one or the other? people are sensitive to diffrent things for different reasons, my overall point was it’s the intentions behind someone’s words or actions that should determine whether or not they are disrespectful, not someones subjective sensitivities, because realistically, there’s just no way to cater to everyone short of using disclaimers and apologies that shouldn’t be necessary when someone is obviously not seeking to hurt anyone or be malicious in any way.
brooke says:
i’m still grasping for an answer to this as well. i’ve for a long time, greatly appreciated several different aspects of traditional native american cultures. i’ve attended events held to honor those traditions, where native americans gather to perform traditional dances, drumming, ritual etc., to share, educate, and keep proud histories alive. they wear traditional garb. they cook traditional foods. they sell hand-made traditional outfits, mocassins, jewelry, blankets, etc. to people of all cultures. if we’re to accept that wearing these items and braiding our hair is racist and disrespectful and perpetuating some negative stereotype, then why in the world are native americans supplying traditional clothing to us and thanking us for learning about their culture?
i’m marrying into a family of cherokee decent. when i discussed this with my fiance he was disgusted. not because someone wore a costume or used the word indian, but because they were put in a position to feel a need to apologize for it. btw… some history on the term indian:
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/aihmterms.html
it’s far from clear cut what the “acceptable” term is. to quote the above website “A 1995 Census Bureau Survey of preferences for racial and ethnic terminology (there is no more recent survey) indicated that 49% of Native people preferred being called American Indian, 37% preferred Native American, 3.6% preferred “some other term,” and 5% had no preference.”
T.J. says:
Melissa: You asked why it’s considered offensive by some, and I think those websites give a pretty good answer. I understand that you don’t agree with those viewpoints, but that doesn’t invalidate them.
As a side note: I took a Native American studies class last semester, and we often used the term “Indian” to refer to Native Americans. I’m pretty sure that the professor and the Native American students in my class would have said something if it was offensive.
Melissa says:
I never said it invalidates them. I just want to understand why it is considered offensive.
I understand why someone would find the sentence “Dirty Injuns, trailer park drunks” etc. But the romanticism of the dress? Not so much.
T.J. says:
Melissa: The “Indian Princess” costume is lumped in with all the other sexy (i.e. skanky) Halloween costumes. I don’t think Heather looked skanky, and I personally wasn’t really offended by her costume. But it’s still marginalizing an entire race. I just don’t think it’s appropriate to dress in a racially inspired costume, even if the intent to offend wasn’t there. Heather said herself that she wouldn’t choose to wear that costume today, knowing what she knows now. I guess you should ask yourself if you would be comfortable wearing a Native American Halloween costume on an Indian reservation. I know I wouldn’t.
hawkfeather says:
I hope I have made my point because I feel I am done reading comments here or responding-
Even if used as an apparent example- i can’t see a reason anyone needs to use such language.
Heather says:
thank you, Hawkfeather, so so much for all of your comments. I personally feel like I am a better person because of them.
Elizabeth says:
I am native american and damn proud, you dont get this gorgeous tan skin intensly brown eyes and long beautiful black hair for nothihng baby! But seriously getting offended because you dressed up as a native? All I have to say to that lady is: GET OVER YOUR SELF! I think sometimes jump the “your being racist” gun a little to fast. I think that its awesome you dressed up as a native and please do it again! My friends have before and its great! I think this commenter should deal with her own insecurities and her own self estem issue because clearly its not that others arent comfortable with natives its that she is not comfortable in her own skin being a native.
Elaine says:
I’m sorry that you had to deal with this. I honestly don’t see the harm it it. I’d be honored if you dressed her in Czechoslovakian garb (my ethnic background) – it’s actually quite pretty!
I think people just take this stuff way TOO far sometimes and that her original comment was WAY out of line…
.-= Elaine´s last blog ..Stars in Their Eyes =-.
Alisha says:
I just cannot understand why some people go off like they do about some things. Maybe she was having a really bad hair day? Not sure.. My sister is half native american as is her daughter my niece who if you ask her refers to herself as indian they both do! I also dated a guy who was navajo for three years and he never referred to himself as native american or indian he always referred to himself as brown more specifically as a brown dude and when I met him he told me he was a navajo indian. My best guy friend who is mexican also refers to himself as a brown dude. When my ex came home from visiting his family in Cali he had a pair of sunglasses that said “brown pride” on them. In big huge gold letters on either side and with a gun as the R in pride! And I now have those sunglasses and wear them (they are the BEST sunglasses I have EVER WORN! Perfect for driving!) and I am a white, red hair, green eyed female! I have to mentally check myself when people ask me about those sunglasses not to refer to my ex as a brown dude but its so hard because its what I heard for close to three years!
It’s just craziness how much a person will get their panties in a twist because of the word choice that another person uses on a blog that belongs to another! It is a personal forum for people if you do not like what you are reading close the browser or go to another page! It’s as simple as that! But as a man I used to work with once told me “Common Sense is Not!”
Alison says:
I fail to see the comparison between race and prematurity. It’s almost as if she isn’t okay with being Native American herself (if she is)? That she is disgusted with herself? Sad.
My twin boys were premature and even the tiniest babies in the NICU with them were beautiful little babies. I just can’t see the comparison though. I am so irritated in reading this that I want to cry among other things.
I have Native American in my lineage. I saw no issue with what you posted previously with the wigs.
.-= Alison´s last blog ..And how are you feeling? =-.
alex says:
rac·ism? ?[rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
There is nothing wrong with dressing in a costume of someone of another heritage, ethnicity, or race. If you assume people are in costume to mock you, please. How much more narcissistic can you be? Heather you should not be apologizing. You did nothing wrong by dressing in costume.
As for the term “Indian”, there are numerous opinions on this; as there are many “Native Americans” who do not find this an offensive or derogatory term. There will always be someone who is offended, however if you were not saying it in a derogatory way, then I don’t see any fault on your end at all.
alex says:
Oh and I can’t even address the premature baby comparison. People who make such unintelligent arguments aren’t worth the time arguing with. It would be nice to attempt to educate but there just isn’t enough time to school every fool on the message board.
Traci says:
Sooooo… I’m not entirely sure you will read this since you have a TON of comments, but I thought I’d post it anyway… I am “indian” and “irish”. My dad, who is full blooded “indian”… uses that term to describe himself. We don’t get offended when people ask if we are “indian”. As a matter of fact, I’m tickled when they ask me, b/c I have the dark skin with light red hair. Go figure. I find it ignorant for her to comment the way she did. I thought those times of walking on eggshells were behind us and being careful of what we said and who we said it to were behind us? Guess I’m wrong.
Heather says:
Thank you Traci – I read every single comment. On days like today, I am cross-eyed.
Happy says:
I have Native American ancestors and I have a baby born prematurely at 27 weeks. I never gave a second thought to the wig photo. I thought it was pretty. I am offended by the premie costume.
It’s extremely clear this person has never gone thru pregnancy with doctors telling them their baby may not live to be born and seeing the baby go thru all kind of things in the NICU for three months before you can finally bring her home. Then any other challenges that may come due to being born prematurely.
JennyTM says:
So, here’s the thing.
The difference between what Heather did and what Jensboys did, to me, is huge.
Heather was, at worst, ignorant. She didn’t know that it would be hurtful.
Jensboys was, at worst, intentionally hurtful. She was angry and reacted out of that anger.
Now, if Jensboys had simply said to Heather (either in comments or in e mail) hey, I know you don’t mean to hurt anyone but have you thought of how this might be perceived? Here is some information on Native Americans that I thought you might be interested in. Thanks, bye… and then waited for a response, well, that would have been entirely different conversation.
Instead, she lashed out. She did something to hit a mark. And she did.
As a social worker, my number one question to her would be why are you so angry? It’s clearly not because of this one photo..it’s clearly not because of Heather using the term “indian” instead of “native american”…. where is it coming from? Peel back the layers, understand it, and learn from it. That’s what you are expecting of Heather. Race relations are such complicated matters. As a white person, I don’t think you need to be ashamed of white privilege. But you DO need to be aware. You do need to be a member of our global society, and you do need to be respectful of others thoughts on the matter. In my opinion, she was the one who lacked respect here.
As an aside, I think it’s brave to post pictures of yourself doing someting ridiculous from your early 20’s. Goodness knows that there are plenty of pictures from that time in my life I would never show.
JennyTM says:
One other thing..
Jensboys expected that you would treat her experience with compassion. She views the world through her own specific lens.. as we all do. But she was unable to offer you the same compassion back. That should be a huge learning experience for her and I hope she will take the time to really examine her own expectations of others and of herself. I think there is room to grow there, as there is for all of us. Everyone deserves compassion and understanding. We’re all just trying to make our way in the world and make sense of our own experience. Life isn’t just or fair and it doesn’t make sense most of the time. The most we can ask for in life sometimes is to be okay with not being okay with it.
Kathryn says:
The picture’s are ADORABLE Heather and that’s all I’m gonna say about that!
Amina says:
Honestly….all I’m getting out of this post is that you have a lot of really ignorant, hate filled readers. It’s discussions like these that make me lose all hope that we really are becoming more tolerant of diversity.
Between all the, “get over racism”, “what my ancestors did to your ancestors doesn’t matter”, and the use of the word “mulatto”…….I’m just depressed.
It makes me truly believe that many Caucasians really don’t understand their privilege, or how others’ lives have been negatively altered by the long history of colonialism, racism, etc. It really is disheartening. People die all over the world because of racism, discrimination, and the lasting effects of white privilege. Why don’t people see that?
Racism is not a problem that can be fixed with money or advanced technology. Everyone is sad over the loss of a child to prematurity. It seems no one is sad when children have a diminished quality of life because of racism. To say that it is better to be alive than to face discrimination is a strange parallel. If death is the standard for how bad something it, then no one can ever be upset about anything or want to change anything.
Heather says:
“It seems no one is sad when children have a diminished quality of life because of racism.”
I wouldn’t over-generalize and say no one. I certainly am sad about it. The reason I opened this post up again was to learn from my mistake, and I have. I cannot speak for my readers but I would venture to guess that at least some of them have learned new things today as well.
“To say that it is better to be alive than to face discrimination is a strange parallel. ”
I play a weird game with myself every day. I call it, “Would I Trade?” Basically, I look at someone else’s life, and I think about their hardships and if I would trade theirs for mine. There hasn’t been a person yet that I wouldn’t trade with. So if that meant that I would have a “diminished quality of life” as you described it, I would take it in a heartbeat if that meant that I had both of my daughters here with me. It’s a very hard thing for me to articulate, and I fear that I’m not doing it well here. I guess I figure that if it came down to it, would anyone want to trade with me? Their family could enjoy white privilege, but one of their kids would also have to die. I just don’t see anyone wanting to trade.
Now my point above is only to say why I and others have made this parallel. I think it’s apples and oranges. If the commenter had, say, used the example of a costume that mocked the Irish Potato famine (part of my cultural history), I think that would have been a better example.
Amina says:
I understand what you’re saying. I can understand both sides of this issue. But man, some of the comments on here are just downright scary. And I think the thing that people don’t realize is that racism and discrimination definitely cause loss of life.
I get what you’re saying about playing the would I trade game. I’ve done that so many times, and honestly it makes a lot of other issues seem trivial or at least not as important. I still think it’s a parallel that can’t be drawn.
Jen says:
Not a fan of the word “mulatto” myself by did you get that the woman who was using it was referring to her own biracial children?
Amina says:
Yeah…I got that. Still can’t believe people use that word though.
Cat says:
So in response to your actual question, I don’t think race is ever a tragic reality (much like I don’t think being part of any minority group is tragic).
I can only talk about my country, but in Australia there is a SEVENTEEN year gap in life expectancy between Aboriginal Australians and those of European descent, and an infant mortality rate three times higher. That comes from a lack of access to health care, inadequate housing and education support and drug and alcohol problems. Its mind boggling to me that citizens of a wealthy, developed country live in third world condition,. I would never say that that being Aboriginal is tragic, but I think those statistics most definitely are. I gather some similar issues are faced by Native Americans (though I obviously don’t know the extent of it). That’s my interpretation of her comment; its not tragic that her daughters are Native Indian, but tragic that they face discrimination.
I absolutely do not think that her trying to compare your pain to hers was constructive or appropriate, I cannot even comprehend living through the death of a child. I don’t think that her point was without validity. Likewise, I don’t think that getting aggressive and angry is ever going to get her anywhere, as I said somewhere above, empathy has to be a two way street and its hard to empathise with someone who is yelling at you. It DOES make me very sad how many people are trying to dismiss racism as something that happened years ago that they bear no responsibility for, or its just PC gone mad. I hear that in Australia a lot too. Yes, the genocide of Australian Aboriginals was 100 odd years ago, but racism clearly hasn’t disappeared. Rather than looking at the theory of white privilege as an attack and a guilt trip I prefer to look at it as an opportunity USE that privilege to do something constructive and attempt to help make some changes. Its not something I feel guilty for, but it is something I think we should work towards erasing. You are obviously doing that by teaching your daughters respect and empathy, that is really the only way to make any in roads.
T.J. says:
I just encourage you to continue doing your own research about this. Most of the people here today said that you did nothing wrong. That was pretty predictable. And while I know that you are a good person and really meant no harm, the American Holocaust and continued discrimination against Native Americans *is* tragic. Unimaginably tragic. Countless Native Americans were murdered, they lost their homes and their cultures, and even today those ramifications are still being felt. I feel like the comments here today make it seem like racism isn’t such a big deal. I hope that today’s discussion sparks something with everyone who read it, and that we can all move towards better understanding of these very real issues.
Salem says:
First of all, all of you can simply dismiss my comment for the fact that I’m only 16 and white, because therefore I am ‘white privileged’ even though I can’t help the fact what race I am BORN AS. NO ONE CAN. When someone says something racist? You -choose- to be offended. When has Heather ever, ever been racist purposely? Ever. Name one time. Tell me when she has gone around calling people racist names and blacking her face.
Politically incorrect? That term is bullshit, sorry. If we’re going to nitpick about racism, let’s say I don’t want to be called white, but Caucasian American. Everytime anyone calls me white *gasp* I will have a freak out and call in my own personal army of people that have their heads so far up their a-holes that they can’t even begin to think that it was an accident and completely an unintentional racist remark that they meant nothing by.
You see what I mean? It’s insane to fight against racism that ISN’T THERE. There was no harsh feelings meant towards Indians/Natives/WHATEVER you prefer to be called by, and it was obvious. It was a WIG. And COSTUME that Heather wore YEARS. AGO.
I completely understand fighting against intentional racism. I have stood with friends of many different races and fought for them. I will stand up when it is right. But this? This is bullshit. This is a prime example of people being complete hypocrites.
Since when did premature labor have anything to do with racism, at all? The woman deserves a swift kick in the ass because she is completely ignorant as to how you feel about that. Yes, racism is terrible, but Heather lost her daughter to premature birth. How completely insensitive can you get? Racism at that point? Give me a break, you just made yourself look like a complete idiot.
In all honesty, the woman needs to go sit and spin because she has no idea how you feel, and you even fixed it by turning it from Indian to Native American because it was unintentional. Completely unintentional.
And then to have her spiral out of control like this with thinking her comment had been deleted? Oh give me a freaking break.
People need to take a chillpill and realize that sometimes, they cause more harm than good when they fight over things that don’t exist and they’re making that context in their head because they are assuming (yes, assuming) it is racist.
Terri says:
You are a very smart 16 year old!!! Well said!!
Laura says:
That chick must HATE Cleveland’s baseball team.
It’s too bad when people let their good thoughts and ideas get muddled in poor execution (loved the sic’s) and hyperbole.
.-= Laura´s last blog ..TEAM in Training =-.
Meg...CT says:
Aren’t you glad it’s a new day???
Peace.
Mary says:
here are my two cents:
– race is not “a tragic reality.” it is something that should be embraced. being a premie, however, is not something that should be embraced. it is a horrible, awful thing that no one really WANTS to go through.
– sometimes “native americans” actually prefer to be called “indian” or “american indian” just as some “african americans” prefer to be called “black,” etc. etc. some people just need to accept that.
– this woman is a total nut job. and i’m not just saying that because i religiously read your blog and you are wonderful (which i do, and you are).
– sometimes people just need to get off their high horse and realize that people are people are people. we are all in this human experience together. some of us experience one horribly shitty thing and never get over it. some of us experience shitty things everyday. but i think that it is safe to say that some of us experience SOMETHING shitty at least once in our lives. and to tiptoe around ALL people ALL the time about anything that they could have possibly experienced is just unrealistic and probably not what anyone really wants.
– you are awesome and beautiful and wonderful and strong. that is all.
Lindsey in the STL says:
So, I always start my morning off by reading the blog. I missed that the other day (where was I?!). I posted something yesterday on FaceBook, as I have been baffled lately about comments that people have made.
My posted was, “Do you think the world has become too sensitive with “political correctness”? Do we take offense to slang too easily?”
The one response that I received hit it if you ask me: “We take offense to everything too easily, and this political correctness trend has created a culture which thrives on lying. People no longer speak the truth because of who they might offend. Ridiculous.”
No matter what we say, we are bound to offend someone these days. We can’t possibly know everything about a person in order to safe guard what we say. I’ve been the fat girl, thin girl, girl that dated a black guy, girl that dated losers, has friends of all religions and races, has friends that prefer the same gender, friends who have a loved one behind bars, etc.
What I have noticed is that not all times does someone who is truly offended say something. They silently let it roll off their back and move on. Let’s not forget that we’re all human.
Heather, you do an awesome job. It’s a blog. We choose to read or not read what you write. If we don’t like what you say, move on or wait until tomorrow’s post.
Don’t sweat the small stuff people!
.-= Lindsey in the STL´s last blog ..Random pictures =-.
Aunt to Another Maddy says:
I haven’t read all the posts, and probably nobody will read mine because it’s so far down, but maybe I can add a perspective: as a white person who grew up in a VERY white area in the 1970s, I now live in Japan, where I’m a minority. I’ve had realtors refuse to talk to me, taxi drivers refuse to let me ride, and coworkers have had laughing little “inside” talks about how “hard it is to work with foreigners, because they never really understand, ha ha ha.” This entire conversation was in Japanese, by the way, and I did in fact understand. Not to mention patronizing comments about how I couldn’t understand the culture etc despite having lived there six years. Even in Tokyo, people refuse today, to your face, to rent to you if you’re not Japanese. Of course, this isn’t being deprived of job opportunities, education, or food.
But it was a huge eye-opener. Understanding racism intellectually and experiencing it are very different things. I’m actually grateful for these experiences, which at the time hurt me a bit or made me angry, because it really changed my perspective on being a non-white person in the U.S. At one point during this time, I was in the U.S. for Christmas and staying in a very Jewish area near Boston. I mentioned to my brother, “I wonder if it makes people here feel funny to have such a fuss made over Christmas” and was really astonished by my brother’s reply: “I’m not going to be made to feel defensive for celebrating Christmas!” I was just raising the question; I’m not sure what he was responding to. But it really made me think in a lot of ways.
When you have this kind of experience, you can make a choice: you can be hurt and angry, and this may sensitize or oversensitize you, as may have happened with the original poster, or you can use it to grow. Did my experiences hurt? Yes, a bit. But it’s made me more empathetic, and I’m glad of that.
Amanda says:
I read a lot but rarely comment and I am hesitant to do so today because I don’t want a flood of responses in my email (LOL). I have skimmed the comments and as someone who is highly educated (I have a PhD for goodness’ sake and spent more years in school than I care to count) I find myself surprised by how ignorant I was to the issues surrounding Native American/American Indians until today. I thank the commentors who shared their experience as Native Americans and their perspective, because I believe without having visited the comments today, I would have continued to remain somewhat ignorant in this area. I know that I will never think of costumes the same way again, certainly. Thank you, too, Heather for revisiting this very poignant issue, knowing I’m sure that many would not understand why we’re even discussing this again.
mango says:
Heather — YOU are wrong when you say, “Was it an inappropriate costume? I see now that it was. I wouldn’t wear it again (even though, ironically, the wig is a Hippie Wig).”
There was nothing wrong with your costume, as you were not “making fun” of anybody. Is it “wrong” to wear a traditional Dutch outfit, complete with blond braids and clogs, or a traditional Russian or Indian outfit? How many people have you seen at Halloween dressed as Gypsies? I am middle eastern and when my parents travelled to the middle east some years ago, they brought back some beautiful traditional garb, including a gorgeous kaftan, which I wore for the next 2 Halloweens, complete with Cleopatra-like eyeliner. I looked damn cute too.
The commenter was out of line, off-base, and with a completely meritless and absurd argument.
Terri says:
Totally agreed! My daughter is Turkish and has worn the stereotypical Aladdin/Genie outfit and rocked it!! She is adorable with her dark hair and dark eyes in her little outfit but I’m sure some could find that “offensive”. We just think she’s cute! I also think your costume was adorable and nothing wrong with it at all. At what point would a costume stop being pc? If people have relatives who were caught up in the Salem witch trials, a witch costume could be deemed offensive and think how many of those are floating around out there. There’s just no end to what someone can be offended by if they are looking for things. I don’t eat pork and when we have a snack time at work there’s a lot I can’t eat because people bring things with pork in them. But it doesn’t offend me, I just choose something else, but I’m sure some other people would take that as a chance to be angry. It was JUST a costume. Now if its done out of hate.. like a Nazi costume or something like that, then it’s over the line but if there’s no bad intention, people need to grow up and get over it.
Tara-Lynn says:
I have been thinking about these posts since yesterday. I honestly can not believe that someone would stoop to the level that she did with the preemie baby comparison.
I totally DO NOT get the correlation between your costume from years ago and the hell that you went through when Maddie was born tiny, and you lost her.
To assume you have a racist problem because of the costume makes absolutely no sense to me.
I hope she respects your wishes and does not read your blog again.
Hugs to you.
xo
Sadie says:
I”m sure I”m not going to say anything that hasn’t already been said, but here goes…
This has gotten so far off-topic it’s ridiculous.
Heather’s costume was a representation of a race whose culture and history she respects. She wasn’t making a political statement, she was JUST TRYING TO LOOK NICE.
Jensboys costume idea was not only disgusting, but on a completely different level than Heather’s. The two cannot be compared. Heather’s displayed the proud, strong race, while Jensboys’ exemplified the horrifying struggles preemies face EVERY DAY.
If Heather wanted to offensive, she would have dressed as a starving, smallpox-stricken Native American Yes, the history of the Native Americans is tragic, but it is also filled with a rich culture, which is the aspect Heather chose to portray. A preemie faces terrifying medical risks, but many, like Maddie, survive the first scary months and grow to be BEAUTIFUL, STRONG babies. The preemie costume wasn’t an example of the good side of the issue, like Heather’s costume was.
So let’s recap.
Proud, strong Native American costume that makes someone feel beautiful – GOOD. Maybe not the most educated or politically correct, but NOT HARMING ANYONE. It is *not* trivializing the history of the Native Americans.
Idea of making fun of a very real and scary early birth – BAD. As a 30 weeker myself, I am pretty horrified by her description.
Aren’t we all just people?? Why does there have to be so much emphasis on race? Personally, I believe the worth of an individual is based on their character or actions, NOT their origins. I appreciate different histories and cultures, but they place no deciding factors on my view of any particular person.
I am an 18 year old, white, middle-class girl, and while I have never experienced judgement because of the color of my skin or countries my great-grandparents came from, I *am* aware of what others have gone through.
Heather used the “wrong” word, and she apologized. It should have ended there.
rosie too says:
This article is my thank you for being willing to host a awkward and difficult discussion topic. To quote Leonard Pitts, “If good people do not lead this discussion, the bad ones happily will.”
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09055/951101-109.stm
Elizabeth says:
As a former preemie myself, I am appauled that someone would portray us the way that she did.
I almost died, many times, and in the 80’s medical miracles were not like they are now. It is not nice to poke fun at preemies that are fighting for their lives and the parents that are praying for recovery.
Annie says:
Normally I am sooo tactful, but IS THERE A PILL FOR STUPID???? As an RN I am sad to report that there isn’t. This is unfortunate b/c the world is overpopulated by idiots. I am a Native American Indian from Oklahoma. I don’t look to have as much Indian blood as I actually DO have. But let me say that I am middle class AND Native American and I NEVER see my heritage as a TRAGEDY. I am NEVER offended when people say Indian. Just like I am not offended when I hear the words “trailer trash”. I also live in a double wide mobile home–because I CHOOSE to. It’s way cheaper than a house and we are able to have land for our kids and animals to play on. To compare “Indian” and the description of a preemie in an offensive way is not only ignorant it is irresponsible. Heather,I love your Indian wig. I remember going to Native American Pow Wows with my grandparents and dressing the part so I would fit in! My VERY Indian looking grandparents were NEVER offended and were actually flattered that I knew so much about my heritage and wanted to be a part of it. Who ever this woman is needs to get a life.
Dana says:
Heather I am a quarter native american and was not offend at all by your post. I think that poster should have contacted you privately instead of just posting a comment. You get so many comments a day, if she would have just emailed you this whole thing could have been avoided. But boy did she fly off the handle and into really really insulting territory. A dead child is tragic, a person heritage is not. She gets to hold her child, you do not. She ought to be ashamed.
Marisol says:
Wow… this is a hot button for me. Racism is something I do NOT tolerate. I moved here from Mexico when i was young and living in Texas, i have gotten my share of racism.
That said, I understand why this woman may have been upset. but i don’t think that you were being racist at all! Dressing up like someone’s race does not make you a racist unless you are doing it in a malicious manner, and you obviously were not!
I must say, when i read “indian” i thought “o0h.. that’s going to be bad.” So i understand why she brought it to your attention, but what I do not agree with or understand is WHY she had to go THERE. She definitely crossed the line with the horrible comment she left that had nothing to do with the conversation and was actually done in a malicious manner.
We are all people who sometimes say things we shouldn’t. The only difference is how you handle it when it is pointed out. And you, handled it perfectly. You (many many times) agreed you did not use the correct term, and that should have been the end of the conversation.
I had so much to say about this… i just cannot find the right words. Don’t worry, you cannot always please everyone. Just know that you are a good person with good intentions and never let anger get in the way of that.
I love your blog.
.-= Marisol´s last blog ..Oh Technology… we’ve become so dependant on it! =-.
Dana says:
please excuse my spelling lol
Dana says:
Thought I should add, funny she called you white Heather last I checked you are not the same color as skim milk or a piece of chalk. It goes both ways. I think she would have be more PC saying “none native americans are privileged”. If we are going to be PC please be PC to everyone. To assume every single “white” person in America is privileged is also pretty ignorant.
If the commenter that went off on you owns a home and has cash in her pocket she is certainly more privileged than I in life.
Betsy says:
Oh my Lord.
I guess I don’t know what the purpose of this comment is… other than to let you know that I am one more follower of your blog who lost a child due to prematurity…. and that I found the description of a preemie disgusting.
I also want to tell you that you are a wonderful mom. I am sure that Maddie is so proud of your for standing up for her. Thanks for being so open and candid with your feelings and emotions, always. You have helped me in so many ways over the past few months.
.-= Betsy´s last blog ..Six Months =-.
Danielle says:
Wow! I am just amazed at some of these comments. I have a French Canadian mother, and a African american/native american father. Both sides of my family, were against my parents marrying, and some from each side that they would not accept children from their relationship.
And you know what?!?!? It doesn’t matter! Racism happens, life happens! I didn’t chose who my parents are, what nationality I am, or where I grew up! But I can choose to have a better attitude than them, once of acceptance and love and so here I am, accepting differences of opinions and beliefs.
Honestly this woman probably has been so hurt, and hit upon something that she knew would be hurtful to you, SO WRONG!!! But maybe she just wanted you to understand. The way she responded was ignorant, but maybe the point she was trying to make wasn’t.
I don’t know. But I do know that racism does happen, every day every minute, and although I “look white” as many people tell me, I am thankful for my heritage, and what I have learned from people who don’t accept me because of who my parents are. And even for what I have learned from reading these comments.
To bring preemies, into this was so far off the mark I can’t even fathom it, but your Maddy was a beautiful baby girl, and I am so sorry that you no longer have her to hold on this side of heaven. Thank you for this discussion, hopefully it has made others think about their reactions to things and to appreciate wherever they are in life.
.-= Danielle´s last blog ..More answered prayers =-.
Miss Grace says:
I wasn’t going to comment on this post because I didn’t want to get into it, but it’s been two days and it’s still on my mind, so I’m back to say something.
Heather, I want to be very clear: I don’t think it was your intention to promote racism with your original post. I don’t think anyone truly believes that. It was, in my opinion, ignorance, and all of us are allowed to be clueless sometimes.
Did the original commenter cross the line? Sure! Was it offensive? Yes! But. I don’t think the analogy she drew between harsh and offensive caricatures was totally off-point. It’s unfortunate that she thought you didn’t publish her comment, and that she reacted so strongly, and of course, Heather, I understand why it would hurt your feelings, but that doesn’t completely invalidate her words.
And this post? This post reads as passive-aggressive to me, to apologize while simultaneously dedicating an entire entry to a commenter instead of letting it go and moving on.
Finally, here in the comments, not from you Heather, and certainly not from everyone who responded, but from an alarming number of commenters on this post, I see a disgusting level of white privilege and ignorance.
Heather, I’ve met you, I like you, I believe that you have the best of intentions, I believe that you have a good heart, and these are all reasons why I was originally not going to comment here.
But I just don’t agree with the way this was handled, so I’m saying something.
.-= Miss Grace´s last blog ..Rio del Mar Beach Day =-.
Heather says:
Passive aggressive? How? The point of this post was for me to hear perspectives different than mine so I can learn from and appreciate them. I have read all 479 comments, and have started some amazing email conversations with readers who have totally blown my mind. I think it’s an important topic and certainly not one I was willing to “let go and move on” from. I have the forum for people to have conversation and learn. How else is someone going to cure their ignorance? I’m certain many people did learn, because they told me so.
Do you think I should have just ignored the whole thing? I think that really would have shown ignorance.
Miss Grace says:
Okay my opinion on the passive-aggressive part has actually changed in reading the comments, so I’ll try to explain myself.
When I first read the post, I hadn’t read all the comments on the previous post, so this one, to me, felt like, “THAT was okay because it was a joke and I didn’t know any better, but THIS wasn’t okay because it’s not a joke and it affects me.” And that was the part that sort of rankled me, and the part the felt attacky (even though you were the one originally attacked).
But. I left this comment, which filled me with ANGST because I’m not very good with dissenting opinions as it turns out, so I went back and read through ALL of the comments on that (original) post, and then ALL of the comments on this post (which takes a really long time btw, I don’t know how you do it), and I no longer think that was the case. I can see that you really were asking for info in the comments here.
And…sigh….I don’t know if it would have been better to ignore the whole thing, or leave it as addressed in the comments there, or what. I feel like now I’m just rambling because I can see your perspective really clearly and I’m not expressing my own opinion well at all and my opinion has been shifting throughout today.
I wanted to respond as soon as I saw that you had, but I may come back to this later when I’m feeling more coherent.
.-= Miss Grace´s last blog ..Rio del Mar Beach Day =-.
Heather says:
ok, and I read your email after I responded and I feel bad. I guess I just want everyone to know that the whole point of this post was for me to learn and appreciate everyone, you know? I didn’t want people to be like, “No, you didn’t do anything wrong!” because even if people felt that way, some people DID feel like I did something wrong, and that unsettled me. It’s just sooooo not who I am. My eyes have been opened for sure.
love you graciepoo.
Miss Grace says:
If it’s a sign of anything at all, I left that comment, and was almost immediately struck by brain-splitting headache. Which maybe will explain the lack of coherence/cohesion/ANY POINT AT ALL in my follow-up. I love you to Heathercakes.
.-= Miss Grace´s last blog ..Rio del Mar Beach Day =-.
Tina says:
Coming in late but wanted to say that the person who made those rude and terrible presumptions claims is searching for a fight. Wait until she has a ‘ Real ‘ problem…. a premie, a death of a best friend, cancer, or God forbid… the death of a child.
Pay no attention.
You are a great mom, writer, warrior, and person.
BB says:
” Karen says:
Throw abuse at me, it’s your little mind and it wont affect my big world. Surely it’s often the same for people of other racial origins.”
Yes Karen, it is the same for people of other racial origins. I’m African, now living in America and I have come to learn that that does not equal African American.
I find it amusing when my friends here tip-toe around things because they don’t want to be “offensive”. I understand them, because things (racism/bigotry) become triggers and that’s where rabid defensiveness like the negative comment poster’s comes from (among other things but I’ll keep it light), but I don’t really understand them – because calling me something? does not make me it!
I’ve had the N word thrown out around me, I’ve been called a bitch, I’ve been called “uppity” for not behaving black enough, but really people, can we just be confident in who we are? I have a keen sense of self anchored to damn near the center of the earth so you could call me anything and it will not shake me, it will not offend because it’s not about race, or tribe, or religion, it’s not the group, it starts with you. Who are you? If you find self before the group I honestly don’t think there’s be this much need to be so freaking politically correct.
The negative comments of this person only served to illustrate a festering, a deep ugliness that was just looking for a way to ooze out, and while we as intelligent being can sift though that darkness and find what she meant, it was completely misdirected in this instance and where she took it, no one has business going.
/rant and I’m taking my soap box with me!
Meg @sleepynewmommy says:
Heather, I watched this unfold in the original post and just couldn’t believe it. I’m sorry that it has turned into such drama, but I’m proud of the way you handled it and want to learn from it.
The hardest part of life is that everyone has something that hurts them, that is hard for them and is sensitive. Mine is miscarriage/stillbirth. But I realize it’s something that people don’t understand until they experience it, so I don’t get offended by flip comments. There has only been one time I was personally attacked over it and I have since cut that friend loose.
This woman is obviously sensitive, but we don’t really know why. We don’t know her or her kids or what her family has experienced. Her first comment, while something I wouldn’t do, was justified. But the personal attack in the next was ridiculous. There are better ways of handling things and I believe that we all need to take this as a lesson. There are real people behind these monitors, so we need to watch accusations and hurtful words that we fling.
There is no way to try to measure her pain versus the pain of another person. We all have pain and it affects us all differently. We just need to, as Heather said, think before we speak.
.-= Meg @sleepynewmommy´s last blog ..Leaving On a Jet Plane…Again =-.
Katy says:
Wow…the fact that you had to deal with such ignorance is terrible. Also, since this is YOUR blog…I would imagine it would be your right to post whatever you wish and to delete whichever comments you wish. (I know that you did not delete the comment…but if you had that would have been ok). BTW…my husband and child have Native American blood.
Katie says:
You also dressed Annie in a Viking Wig, but I didn’t see any comments from angry Norwegians.
Stephanie says:
I have not read through all of the comments, but am I the only one who thinks this person was a troll? I think she just made the comment in order to start an argument; she is probably hoping that a bunch of drama ensues.
If she truly was offended by a picture of a whig on a cute little baby, I certainly hope she never steps outside or turns on the television. I don’t think the poor thing could handle it.
Stephanie says:
I found her blog, and she admitted that she hasn’t read any of the comments because they got “nasty!” “Hello Pot? This is Kettle…I don’t know if you’ve noticed…”
So I answered my own question. She’s not a troll. She’s just rude and self-centered. She believes that nothing in this world can *possibly* hurt more than racism hurts her family. I do not have ill will towards her, but she will never truly open her eyes until she experiences something truly horrific.
Kelly Jo aka GOTGRITS aka CowboysNDN says:
Just so you know…..I am Indian….Native American…Cherokee/Creek whatever you want to call it. I have always said I am an NDN…I am proud of it and have even dressed up as such as have my daughters. There are some that use the names of teams, costumes etc as a political stand….which usually means that they are wanting money or are the ones ashamed. The fact is our tribes sell clothing to “whites and other races” to wear as costumes and souvenirs if she really wants an issue. It brings attention to our past and may even get others interested in our past and future….I see no problem……talking bad about such as people with disabilities or dressing as such that is just beyond wrong. That is hate……I am sure she probably dressed her children as kittens, puppies or other animals……someone may need to contact PETA.